103. Baking it Down - Good Enough is Good Enough

👍Good Enough is Good Enough

I made peace with myself a long time ago that I would have to learn everything I wanted to be "pretty okay" at, I wasn't naturally gifted at anything. And I also learned that the likelihood of me being an expert at anything was a pipe dream. 

And that being good enough is often good enough.

And just being good enough? It's often good enough.

Most of what you want lies at the end of "being good enough" for long enough that people end up giving you their money over and over again, while, each time - you get just a little better than you were the last time. 

Very little of the life we want lies at the "perfect" finish line. Perfectionism is a beautiful, delusional lie - but it's such a delicious lie, because "being perfect" sounds noble. But in the same vein, "being perfect" also sounds impossible - and that's because it likely is. 

Waiting to be perfect is the perfect excuse for not executing right now - right when execution probably matters most. Instead, we kick the proverbial "cookie can" down the road to a future date when we hope everything will be perfect - ready for launch.

But that date never comes. Why? We ain't perfect. And we shouldn't pretend that we're trying to be or that we even need to be perfect to accomplish our goals. 

😳 "So, you twins are sayin' we should put out a subpar product?!"

No - I'm sayin' put out a good enough product. Likely that's all your client wants anyways. It's you who thinks you need to star in three seasons of the Food Network Holiday Cookie Challenge before you can bake mermaid cookies for a 6-year-old's birthday party. 

The six-year-old? They just wanted mermaids. Not a famous tv star turned baker.

But boy - does not havin' to launch 'til it's perfect sound so darn good. You get to sit in the pipe dream phase - the planning phase - the ideas phase. And that's fun - because you don't have any problems if you don't do anything. But you also don't have any business if you don't do anything. 

This week's podcast is more subjective than objective - but once you realize that no one required perfection - heck, they never did - you set yourself free to be the best at bein' good enough. And good enough is good enough to get you most places.

Transcript

Speaker 1 0:00

Okay, we're gonna try this again. Welcome to the podcast.

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We are at our old

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Location Son's crazy cap. From last week, week,

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Heather already

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Kicked

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Phoebe to the curb.

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I did. Phoebe immediately came up nail in my She

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Snagged your pants. I

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Saw Jagging, right? Jagging Anna. Are she used to do flare pants? I don't know. I am wearing,

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I think his boyfriend jeans are in

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Now. I, I can't, I I, I, you know, the mental like, jump it took to put

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On skinny jeans?

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I did. And then I turned immediately sweating<laugh> and I put them away.<laugh>, can I put these back myself? You don't need to put'em away yourself.<laugh>. I went

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To an eye doctor's appointment last week and I was like, yeah, I want the glasses I'm wearing now. Just newer with the new prescription. And she's like, yeah, that's not really in style anymore.

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Mm. I wouldn't, I wouldn't put it past that. I

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Said, you look, I have a green jacket on. Do I look

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Care about style<laugh>? I have skinny jeans. I'm very clearly out of style. I, I don't know. I hated that skinny jeans came in a style.

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I love skinny jeans. Right?

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But it w it's still a battle. What? They're, you can find a skinny gene that can't go over your kneecap. It's so

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Skinny. Oh yeah. The sizing is

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Crazy. The sizing is all over the place. But now these boyfriend jeans, which are

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Like, they look like freedom.

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I need, I need trends to kind of be close to the one before. Not this polar opposite. It's too hard for my brain to adjust. If you finally accepted it, skinny jeans were in and now it's this boyfriend Gene

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Me and you have settled in the world of a jeggings. I like that. Legging to jeans mixed together. I do not like how restricting jeans are. I don't like that I have to bend at the waist to pick something

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Up. I don't like that my knee pulls down. My buny fabric.

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<laugh> or it pulls up and then you have like a

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Lot of cly fabric. Yeah. I don't like that. I don't really like, I don't really like clothes that are constricting. I love Give a stretch. Gimme

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A gym outfit. Give a gym outfit.

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But, but I've been ta testing wearing essentially pajamas. Is clothes<laugh>? Is this

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What you're wearing right now? Pajamas.

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Is this, okay, so if you guys know Anne Taylor Law and Taylor Subbrand, the Loft, Uhhuh<affirmative>, subbrand L and Gray. Yes. L Egg Gray.

Speaker 2 2:03

I Gray feel like Lo Lo Love and Gray. Le and Gray isn't necessarily a sub-brand as much as it's just like side by side. Like a younger brand.

Speaker 1 2:12

It is more expensive than the loft, but it is soft. The softest fabric. Yeah. So only shop on their Black Friday sale. Yeah. Uh, that's what I'm wearing. It is extremely soft. But I also think people could be like, did

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You just wake up? Are these pants from Long Gray?

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These pants are from Nilo. Oh, slaughtering the name Pronou. You

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Love them. Those pants. Mine did not wash. Well,

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Well look, Fs ruin these. Well,

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I know you didn't pay a ton for'em, so now I feel less bad.

Speaker 1 2:36

No, I know, right? I don't know. It's all over the place. So anyways, speaking of all over the place, what is this podcast about?

Speaker 2 2:41

<laugh>. It's about trends,<laugh>, fashion trends. Uh, this podcast, I'm trying to not say that we're marketing nuggets, but you said it last time. So I can't, I love to decorate cookies while I'm decorating. I love to listen to podcasts. A lot of people can watch movies. I end up just watching movie, not decorating. So I said, said, Heather, you know what? Let's bring a podcast to these folks once a week. And I literally thought it was just gonna be me and Heather listening to ourselves after we filmed. But you guys put up with us. Why? I do not know. It's

Speaker 1 3:09

Trippy seeing yourself listened on Spotify.<laugh>.

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It is weird. Hello<laugh>. Well, hello.

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Do you listen to our podcast?

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It's never heard anyone. It's last my list,

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But I do listen to it sometimes.

Speaker 1 3:23

Uh, yeah, I listen to it. I listen to it on that speaker that wraps around my neck. So if anyone ever stopped me, it'd be horrifying for them to hear not only my voice from a speaker and my voice from my mouth. I think, oh, it seem insane.

Speaker 2 3:34

I hate listening to myself like every morning when I,

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Everyone's like, we do too, guys.

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Yeah, I know. We hate

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Listening to

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You too. Every morning when I upload the Instagram reels, it will play my voice while I'm editing it. Like,

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That'll drive you tonight. Great to hear that representative

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Thing. I do apologize to my family. I'm really sorry, but you're getting ready to hear me. Really

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Peppy. Really early

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<laugh>. I don't know. Hey, it's the name of the game. Unfortunately, the marketing game requires your little face, your little voice, your little consistency.

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If, oh

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<laugh>, you were ready for the death.

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If you haven't joined us in the marketing group on Facebook, you can search sugar Cookie Marketing group. Are

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You starting to let people in more

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Often? I am. When you put podcast as

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The way you heard us, how many people are pending? Okay.

Speaker 2 4:18

No. People are constantly request to join. You're gonna be astonished.

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6,430

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<laugh>. Listen, it was down to 6,200 just like two days

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Ago. I'm gonna type in a random, I'm gonna type in the word Heather. Let me see the longest pending Heather.

Speaker 2 4:32

Good, good. Oh,

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Oh, that's, that's one of them is me. To be honest,

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<laugh> pending with a paper profile. I see myself.

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Lemme stop.

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Approve you go. Hello?

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Oh, there's an eight weeks ago. Heather. Sorry Heather. That's

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So bad. Did she answer the questions?

Speaker 1 4:48

She did. How did she hear about How do you wanna learn most about marketing? I wanna attract more buyers. Word of mouth on Facebook.

Speaker 2 4:54

Oh yeah. Okay. Let<laugh>,

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Excuse me, Heather. Heather Boo.

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But I'm doing better. If you list that you heard about us on the podcast, I literally let you skip to the front of the line because I feel like it's my app penance, you know, for you having to listen to our voices for an

Speaker 1 5:07

Hour. Mm-hmm.<affirmative>, there's Heather 26 weeks ago, Heather, 37 weeks

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Ago. Listen, it's a process.

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Heather. One year ago. I'm sorry. Group's only

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Around<laugh>. Anyways,

Speaker 1 5:19

We'll figure it out. Corey's working on letting more people in. But when you wanna create a healthy group community, it takes a lot of community management and um, people kind of join. And the weird thing that happens when people join a group is it's shoved in their feet a lot right off the bat. Yeah. And it's kind of Facebook, what I perceive as Facebook algorithm testing, how much of that content you wanna see from that group. So you're inclined to interact but to create a healthy community, you gotta kind of police it bit, which Corey

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Husband would know. We do have a vibe in the group we wanna keep, which is niceness.<laugh>. So if you're nice, you know, we let a few people in you

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Catch respect, you know, the small

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Things<laugh>, not yelling

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At each other, calling each

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Other<laugh>.

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You know, that's the vibe

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In the group. So we let a few people

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In, let them catch the vibe and then let a few other

Speaker 1 6:03

People ask. Before we jump into today's topic, are there any insider tips from an admin perspective that you can tell to group users? I have one. If you block an admin, they can still see you. In fact, you move over to this other list that is essentially tattletaling on the fact that you block the admin.

Speaker 2 6:18

Listen, I clear out that list. Daily

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<laugh>. Yeah. So, uh, that is a tip that I think is pretty interesting. Yeah. A new tip is that when somebody requests to join a group, if you're declined, you can now decline them with feedback.

Speaker 2 6:30

I thought that was great. I never do it. Yeah,

Speaker 1 6:32

Never ever do it. Something called admin as assist is pretty new in groups. If you don't manage a group you wouldn't know it. But it is a essentially AI that's running through a script. If you don't have a profile picture that admin assist can auto automatically deny. So if you don't have a profile picture and you wonder why you're not getting into a lot of groups Admin assist. Sorry. That thing that counts the Alexis count the likes. Thanks.

Speaker 2 6:52

No, you're welcome.

Speaker 1 6:52

Thanks for doing your marketing job,<laugh>. But uh, yeah, it's encourage you do put a profile picture cuz admin assist is auto enabled now unless we had go in in and disable it.

Speaker 2 7:01

Yeah, there's one for, we have a baking group if you were didn't know. So join the, the marketing one and the baking one. The baking one will put anyone who does like a recipe url. Mm-hmm.<affirmative>, it'll always say I have to approve

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It. It's a new one cuz it thinks that URLs are spam. So if you post a link with a url, like a demand WW dot and it, you don't see it or it immediately disappears, that's probably the admin assist doing what it thinks is a good job. So just things to note when you join groups, I'm

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Constantly approving and I'm approving like post and stuff. So even if you post it, you're like, well I'm worried it's not gonna get a, i I go throughout the day constantly looking in approving things. So it's not like you huge

Speaker 1 7:42

Wait time. Oh we do have the baking group on post approval, which is what you're referring to, right? Yes. Uh, the reason being

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Context would've been good.

Speaker 1 7:48

That would've helped a little bit for them. But I got'em, I got'em in the second half.<laugh>. Uh, yeah cuz uh, the baking group, you know, the dis the velocity of post going up there, it's kind of hard to manage. So we did put it on post-approval main group isn't, I find that groups thrive better when post approval isn't turned on. But again, it comes down to how you manage your

Speaker 2 8:06

Group. I know. I wonder why I've left it on for so long.

Speaker 1 8:08

You said it was getting hard to manage.

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It was getting hard to manage cause people were posting willy-nilly in the middle of the night. Well that's

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What they do when they live on the other side of the world and it's their daytime. It's

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Honestly<laugh>

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<laugh> when it's there. I

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Dunno. People who have to test it. Not

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All. Okay. That'd be interesting. Okay.

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All right.

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Let havoc rain

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Supreme. Yeah. Maybe

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To today's topic, it's more not objective, more subjective, but I think it's a principle that will set you free. Good is good enough. Here's the thing. In a perfect world, everything is spelled correctly. Everything is perfectly done. It's perfectly delivered. People had a perfect experience and they perfectly were happy with the perfect everything. Mm-hmm.<affirmative>, this is not a perfect

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World.

Speaker 1 8:50

And oftentimes when we become slaves to the word perfection, we often never get to the word execution because regrettably, nothing is ever perfect. Yeah.

Speaker 2 9:01

Heather would love to call that your personal roadblock.

Speaker 1 9:05

<laugh>. Yeah. We are construction workers of our lives and we build a lot of roadblocks. And one of them that feels great, but actually is a wolf in sheep's clothing is perfectionism. Mm-hmm.<affirmative>. And I know that on the flip side you could say, well, do you wanna put out a subpar product? Are you telling us not to try our best to be perfect? Trying your best and being perfect are actually in my book, two different things. They are. And one will get you at the gate running and one will actually stop you from leaving the gate altogether. Mm-hmm.<affirmative>. Now cor and I are not perfect

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Far

Speaker 1 9:39

From<laugh> and the product. We put out the products, we put out a, as much as I would love them to be a hundred percent perfect, if I waited for perfection, I'd still be waiting to push out the very first product.

Speaker 2 9:52

Um, absolutely. One thing I know I hit the reels and TikTok video game a little bit later because I was worried it wasn't going to look good time. So I finally, you know, I did a setup and I said, you know what, they'll scroll if they don't like it, but at least I can put it out there and start figuring it out.

Speaker 1 10:10

You can always, you can always go back and archive, but you can't go back in time and post mm-hmm.<affirmative>. So, okay. A lot of us think like, okay, I really want to have a professional brand. I wanna have professional marketing, I wanna have a professional printed document, right? Mm-hmm.<affirmative> a flyer. And the thought of having maybe a type on that flyer could be absolutely horrifying to people. But I wanna let you guys know that most people aren't even gonna read it. Most people aren't actually going to read that flyer. But if you never get to the point that you actually even produced a flyer, I can guarantee you you'll make no sales. At least the flyer with that one typo that people probably won't catch. And if they do lol, give'em a free cookie. Yeah. That will possibly move your business forward.

Speaker 2 10:51

There was a flyer Heather named to me. Yep. And it was supposed, yes, the road name was Horn Baker and Heather forgot the end

Speaker 1 10:58

Horn Baker was Cor Baker<laugh>. But you know, the only person who read it was the employee of the company that worked there for 30 years. And she was a Cro Crochety, old horn baker

Speaker 2 11:06

<laugh>. But at the end of the day, no one was gonna be like the, it was the tiniest little words at the bottom

Speaker 1 11:12

Of the it pitch was the last word of the last page.

Speaker 2 11:14

Right. No one would've seen it. And if Heather would've waited till it was perfect, we might have still had that client<laugh>. I was just kidding.

Speaker 1 11:21

<laugh>. Um, so I know what po some people may be aghast right now and they could say twins, I see you type all the time. You have typos and everything For sure for, that's how you know we typos<laugh>. That's a garlic guard. But I wanna, I wanna challenge you to think of all the times you didn't reach ex reach execution because you waited for perfection. Now let's sing in terms of baking cookies. Mm-hmm.<affirmative>, if you wait until you get the perfect ding with no bubbles, with the perfect never bleeds, never does this. Would you still not be baking cookies?

Speaker 2 11:50

<laugh>. Yeah.<laugh> stop.

Speaker 1 11:53

A lot of us wait for this perfect scenario that I don't think will ever happen. Mm-hmm.<affirmative>, the weather will never play Nice. Humidity won't.

Speaker 2 12:01

Sorry, my wife said my child child's school schedule has ended. I don't know how to trump the volume.

Speaker 1 12:06

I dunno. This is great. Okay. One, I'm sorry, sidebar. Uh, apple people Koi says I her phone's like blasting out noises. I said, can you mute it? It's muted. She turned into a crotch, the old grandmother and summer. My little sister is like, no, it's definitely

Speaker 2 12:20

Not. I'm never touching that

Speaker 1 12:21

Button. Well, you definitely are.

Speaker 2 12:23

Listen,<laugh>, I'm new. Getting acquainted. Why? How you turn off the watch sounds.

Speaker 1 12:29

Somebody with an Apple watch, please tell Corey how to turn off the Apple watch sound.

Speaker 2 12:32

Thank you. I just hit that side button about three times and something always pops

Speaker 1 12:36

Up.<laugh>, what's something you've waited on to be perfect in terms of your business that kept you from exiting the gate?

Speaker 2 12:43

Selling my first order. Oh, interesting. Interesting. I did not wanna sell. If someone asked me if I was doing, I always have an excuse. Money

Speaker 1 12:52

Was allergic to money for a while.

Speaker 2 12:53

Oh yeah. Very scared that I wasn't going to make somebody happy. Then one lady said, ma'am, I don't care what you make<laugh>, I just wanna buy'em from<laugh>. And I made these cookies and they were gosh darn cute. Beast. Remember? Yeah. And I said, oh my goodness. Were they perfect? Yeah.<laugh> just kidding. Pretty darn<laugh> excited. I said, you know what? I held myself back from that. Has every sale been so easy? Absolutely not. Is some days my icing does not work. For sure. It's like every day. But if I would've not sold to that first lady, I wouldn't be selling. Now

Speaker 1 13:29

Let's come, let's walk through some scenarios where we see people waiting for perfection to avoid money. Yeah. I'd say I see people waiting to have a fully completely, perfectly done. Every image is nicely centered

Speaker 2 13:43

Website

Speaker 1 13:44

And an exchange for waiting for perfection. Walk away from the sales that they could have easily captured on something like J Formm. Nowhere near as perfect as a website. Job form is a form that does accept payment. It is not as professional as a website. It is not as pretty as a website. It takes payment like a website. Yeah, it is. It is the bridge between that perfect website and today mm-hmm.<affirmative>. So you can still work on your perfect website and have job form in the meantime collecting cash money. Yeah,

Speaker 2 14:13

Absolutely. I, another way I see people hold themselves back is they say, I'm not as good as my competition right down the road. So I don't feel like I can sell because I'm not as good as them. That's the issue right there. If people are asking you, do you sell these, then they're ready to buy mm-hmm.<affirmative>, they're not saying, do you sell these? Because I wanted to compare'em to so-and-so. No,

Speaker 1 14:32

I wasn't gonna buy'em you, I just wanted make sure you weren't selling'em. I was definitely gonna buy'em from up this stage.

Speaker 2 14:35

No. Yeah. You, you are your own worst enemy. When you will let your sense of I'm not good enough. Stand in your way. You are good enough.

Speaker 1 14:43

Here's, here's something that I see people very worried about. Flyer design. Listen, there are graphic design principles that are ideal there. I say close to perfection. Mm-hmm.<affirmative> sometimes it's just not us. But that flyer could connect you with somebody who wants to place a giant order. Yeah. And you're saying, well, I don't like the design or I have to go through 10 proofreads. If you learn anything from who baker, you don't.<laugh>. Of all the flyers we handed out, which I think that the client ended up printing thousands and you could say, well they've probably lost clients. I guarantee I can almost bet you they didn't. Nobody read it. Yeah. Uh, except for that one employee. But had the client said, well, well no, we need to go through 20 iterations one to to to quell everyone's fears. They signed off on that.

Speaker 2 15:27

It was a lot, lot

Speaker 1 15:28

Of fear. I had it writing, so I just pressed print. But Ha, if you wait for the perfect flyer, I bet you'll be waiting for the rest of your life. Yeah. But you know what? You won't have to deal with the stress of actually having to make money and make sales. Right.

Speaker 2 15:43

But you have a great excuse.

Speaker 1 15:44

You'll have a great excuse. I'm still working. I'm still tweaking. I'm still, I'm still another one. I'm gonna say this is you may not know everything and if you wait until you know everything Yeah. You'll never, you'll never launch. Yeah. So you can say, well I don't really understand how Instagram works, so I'm not gonna launch my business until I do. Uh, if Corey and I had to wait to launch our businesses be until we knew everything, we'd never launch. Because new things are coming out constantly. Uhhuh<affirmative>, you can always tweak. You can always optimize. You can go back and reassess and audit and change and add and take away. But you can't go back in time and start. Yeah. You cannot travel. That's one thing you can do. You can't travel back in time. Now, regarding like techniques, what would you say is a good time for somebody

Speaker 2 16:26

To launch? I think if Panera is selling their cookies.

Speaker 1 16:31

<laugh>, I love Pan American. We can

Speaker 2 16:32

All sell our cookies. Yeah. The thing is, what you think is perfection is, is a cookie. It's a version of perfection. Day to day. No one knows what a crater is. Honestly, before I entered the world, I thought it was like, you know, the thing on the moon

Speaker 1 16:45

<laugh>, I kind of thought like really I could see the cratering in bunny ears. The ear canal of the bunny ear. Yeah. Yeah. But I thought without the knowledge that it was an issue, I thought it was a feature. Intentional. Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, sometimes when I see people like eat crater, like,

Speaker 2 16:58

Congratulations,<laugh> looks great. You're crater too wonderfully.

Speaker 1 17:04

But people waiting for that perfect icing, consistency. A lot of it's pretty darn close.

Speaker 2 17:10

It's and it's

Speaker 1 17:11

Good enough. It is

Speaker 2 17:12

Good enough. And customers are fine with it.<laugh>. Yeah.

Speaker 1 17:15

If I was, if I expected Panera to produce what I see some of these cookies produce, Panera would never sell<laugh>.

Speaker 2 17:21

No. They'd still be in the back of the kitchen. Figure out ice.

Speaker 1 17:24

Yeah. Uh, but Panera puts out that little lemon, guess what? Tinted too.

Speaker 2 17:28

Every evening on the evenings I do go. They're always sold out. They're, those cookies are

Speaker 1 17:32

Always gone. You gotta go at lunchtime. You get it to get a Tula. You do. Yeah. You can't wait to the but second best guy that Eminem knockoff on. I

Speaker 2 17:39

Love him. Love him. And don't like when he's a little over

Speaker 1 17:41

Baked. No, he has to be under baked. Yeah. Let that center fall out the middle. Yes. And you got, and I guarantee you that's not baked. There're

Speaker 2 17:46

Right. No, they're baked there fresh daily. Really? Mm-hmm.<affirmative> Really? The cookie. That's how they run out. Because they've only bacon one today.

Speaker 1 17:54

Well, Panera skills tonight I

Speaker 2 17:56

Nine.

Speaker 1 17:58

But yeah. Waiting for perfection is going to hold you back. But it's gonna feel delicious. It's gonna feel delicious waiting for perfection. Cause it's the perfect excuse. It's the perfect excuse not to be good enough. Uhhuh.<affirmative>.

Speaker 2 18:10

Yep.

Speaker 1 18:11

What else? Now add some marking knowledge. You, I'm trying to Right. That was a good segue to really drop another. Yeah. You like chicken nuggets.<laugh> one thing I'll say and Corey's gonna know exactly what I'm about. Say your website doesn't need to have a hundred percent of the pages filled out for you to get it up there.<laugh>. Here's the thing. Great eye<laugh>. Sometime we were like, Hey, we need a new website. This

Speaker 2 18:32

Was you Heather said, we're gonna make a new website. Let's just pull the one down. That's worked for so long.

Speaker 1 18:37

Yeah. And design trends change constantly. So I upload a new one and then Corey and I got busy making sales and making money. However, there's some orphan pages on that site that have Lauren Ipsum text, if you know what I mean. You're probably some history of graphic design. It's the placeholder text from when you're gonna come back and add value<laugh> anyways. When you get busy cause you're making money and hustling and selling, you kind of forget to come back. But everyone's in the bluest Blue moon. Somebody

Speaker 2 19:00

Will find, tell

Speaker 1 19:01

Me like this, you know who it was? It was the Forger podcast. He was like chaos reading through your website. Found some weird stuff. I said reading a

Speaker 2 19:08

Website. We haven't even done that ourselves.

Speaker 1 19:10

<laugh>. So if Corey and I had waited until that website is a hundred percent perfect in every word and every sentence structure and every Jared and pronoun and objective. If they were all perfectly put in there, Corey and I would have not launched Sugar Cookie marketing or the cookie college. I can guarantee it. We'd be waiting forever. Absolutely. Another way I

Speaker 2 19:29

See people hold themselves back is with their photos.

Speaker 1 19:32

Listen, it's not perfect. They're not gonna post it. It's gonna work. Right.

Speaker 2 19:36

It doesn't matter if it's staged so perfectly added perfectly in light room, no good enough. It's getting something up there. People buy with their eyes, your photo is good enough. I just need to see it. And once I see your photo, I'm gonna be like, yeah, I want that P y O cookie.

Speaker 1 19:51

And here's a big thing in being good enough and being okay with not being perfect. You're actually building the experience. You're learning a lesson every time. You're just good enough. Because the last time you were good enough, you made a mental note. I really didn't like the lighting. I should try lighting over there next time. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.<affirmative>, then we have good enough with the lighting's good. But I wish my, my staging was a little bit more punchy. Okay, well you know what, maybe a backer board would be a little bit,

Speaker 2 20:12

But you're growing and posting each, each time. Isn't

Speaker 1 20:15

The person who's waiting on perfection for the first thing. Yeah. You will never, the things that I made, the things that, the posters, the flyers, the stuff, the graphics, the things that I did five years ago. Make me gag just a little bit. Yeah. Today it was so far from perfect. It was ugly. It was gross. But at then it worked. It did. And at then it was all we needed. We needed good enough to get out the gate to get our name out there to produce income. But the people who wait for perfection and never actually sell are one of the most dangerous ones because you're comparing yourself to them. And if you operate like they do, you will not push, push out a product until it's also perfect. Which means none of you are doing it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 20:50

Which would be crazy. You're leaving so much money on the table.

Speaker 1 20:53

Right.

Speaker 2 20:54

Which I am willing to,

Speaker 1 20:55

How many years of experience do you need teaching cookie classes to finally char to teach a cookie class?

Speaker 2 21:00

I started teaching classes right after I started there.

Speaker 1 21:02

Right.<laugh>. Yeah. And I still never decorated and I still teach. So I have Corey waited until I learned how to decorate. So we had two Perfect. Yeah. Instructors. We'd never be teaching classes, but we'd still be waiting on perfection. And we'd be like, when we, when we do launch, it's gonna blow you guys away. But the whole time people would've been taking our market share. In the meantime, the people who knew that good enough was all the client really wanted. Yeah.

Speaker 2 21:22

That's good. No one has ever been like, Corey, can you show me your professional looking florals that look identical to the flower itself? Yeah. No one's ever said that. They're like, I have six cookies in front of me. Do you know how to get me through one through six? Yeah. Nobody cares. You read your

Speaker 1 21:35

Talents are really at a cookie class. They careless wait tries and they're like, okay, gimme my icing backpack<laugh>. I wanna mess it up myself.<laugh>. Uh, but yeah, if you wait for, if you wait on perfection, you'll be waiting, waiting for the rest of your life. But it'll feel, it'll feel like you're doing a good

Speaker 2 21:51

Job. But I know a lot of people are listening to this and they're like, yeah, I'm holding myself back. But it's not for the reasons that the twins are saying right now. What is the reason that you're holding yourself back? I want

Speaker 1 21:59

You to, you know what the reason is. Say it out loud. Call your shot, say, Hey, I'm not gonna launch because I'm, and then finish the sentence. Yeah.

Speaker 2 22:05

Because my spouse does not believe in me. My spouse is not supporting me. I love watching Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.

Speaker 1 22:14

I have anxiety in dealing with people. That's fine as long as you say it. Mm-hmm.<affirmative>. But what you can't turn around and say, Hey, my marketing isn't working. Oh no, no. The marketing is probably gonna work just fine. You've got to remove those roadblocks and realize the good enough is good enough. Mm-hmm.<affirmative> and a lot of us will exist. And I know I'm this type of person, my whole life will exist and good enough. I will never be an expert at any one given thing. And I am. Absolutely. I'm kind with that.

Speaker 2 22:38

But so many people love to to blame that not good enough part. And it holds themselves back. But they think, no, I'm being good because I'm not giving people a subpar product or subpar service. But it's not, they're not seeing it as subpar.

Speaker 1 22:54

I think that cookies compare themselves to other cookies and we're like, I'm not as good as that person. Hey, you know what, guess what? I'm gonna set you free. You probably aren't. And it's fine. But the mechanic I just took my car to, I have no idea if he's the best in this area. To me, he's amazing. My problem fixed. Yeah. And I just needed a cookie that matched the birthday theme Uhhuh. And I didn't need you to win the food network to be able to provide the mermaid cookie for a six year old's birthday party. Yeah.

Speaker 2 23:18

I think it's almost like, dare I say, a release to know that I'm never gonna be the best. Right. So now I can cheer for people who are better than me

Speaker 1 23:25

And be like, you

Speaker 2 23:26

Are you, are

Speaker 1 23:27

You being better than me? Cost me nothing. Cause I'll never be that

Speaker 2 23:30

Person. Keep doing you

Speaker 1 23:32

<laugh>. And instead of this defeatist mindset of, well I'm not good enough to do this. Say I'm not good enough to worry about being perfect. I'm good enough to do what I'm doing right now. Yeah. And your audience, your market will always tell you whether they think you're good enough or not, by the way they put their money. Yeah. I think a lot of people like, Hey, don't pay me. I'm not good enough. Like, no, no, no. They wanted to. So they think you are.

Speaker 2 23:52

Yeah.

Speaker 1 23:52

Stop telling people not to pay you. I

Speaker 2 23:54

Charged almost nothing for my first order because I did. I think it was No, it was those

Speaker 1 23:57

Bees. Oh goodness. The bees flew back in here.<laugh>. Because

Speaker 2 24:00

I didn't think I was good enough. Those bees took me bee cut forever. And I was like, wow. This is like a charity project right now.

Speaker 1 24:08

Could you imagine if you had to be an expert cook here to be able to sell your first cookie? Oh, then what would be the point? Everyone would quit. Cause they need to actually make money to pay for their wife.

Speaker 2 24:15

<laugh>. I gotta go do my day job.

Speaker 1 24:17

Maybe I wanna do that. But yeah, if you wanna gate, keep yourself out. Perfection is a great one. Highly recommend it. Highly recommend telling everybody. You're not gonna sell to them until you're perfect. They'll, they'll be like, wow, so great. Mm-hmm.<affirmative>. And you'll get a feel that you are not missing out cuz you're, and it's wonderful and you'll make no money and that's fine. But you'll be able to wait and you'll be able to sit back in your kitchen and spend more money. Uh, waste more time. But you won't have to launch and you won't have to deal with the anxiety of launching. There's

Speaker 2 24:42

Comfort in where you're at. There's comfort being like, I'm not putting myself out there. Because if I put myself out there, that's

Speaker 1 24:50

A whole new world. I might a whole new set

Speaker 2 24:52

Of challenges. Someone might not like me. I know. Yes. But I am comfortable in this spot of the unknown. That's what I tell people. Don't ask questions you don't want the answers to. So a lot of people hold themselves back thinking like, well I, what if no one buys? What if I launched this Facebook page and I don't sell out? Let me tell

Speaker 1 25:09

You, you're not going to, some of the time Corey, those people are like, I don't think I'll, I what if my class didn't sell the the canceling? Then cancel and tell everyone, Hey, so sorry, can I roll you into the next one? Yeah. It is just a great, and it's all about perspective. You can say, well I'm a failure. My class didn't sell out. Or you can say, pull the Thomas Edison and said it. My glass didn't sell out. What did I do wrong? What can I try differently? Corey and I could not sell out. July 4th

Speaker 2 25:32

Classes.<laugh>. Yeah. July 4th.

Speaker 1 25:34

Turns out were

Speaker 2 25:35

Traveling. They were traveling.

Speaker 1 25:36

So we moved our July 4th class, we scrapped the whole independent state theme. And we went with a burger theme last year and we put it smacked down in the middle of July. Yeah.

Speaker 2 25:43

Sold out. Sold out. People were bored of being home after the travel.

Speaker 1 25:47

Yes. Turns out they hated each other after the 4th of July. But what if we would've

Speaker 2 25:50

Quit the July 4th?

Speaker 1 25:52

Did. We're not good enough. Actually, we're not good enough to sell classes because look, our our market shares dried up. No, no, no, no, no, no. It was just, or we could have That would've been nice. Yeah. Wouldn't how to teach anymore classes.<laugh> wouldn't know. Had to deal with any more problems. Uhhuh<affirmative>, here's the thing. When you're okay with good enough, then you're okay with good enough figuring out how to deal with an upset client. Mm-hmm.<affirmative>, you do not have to deal with any upset clients if you never sell anything. There you go. No, there's a secret. You'll have perfect

Speaker 2 26:18

The perfect clients cuz they will not exist.

Speaker 1 26:21

<laugh>. And they'll be wonderful because they will never complain<laugh>. Or you can say, Hey, I think this is good enough to launch. If the client's upset, let me have a good enough response. And then every time you deal with clients, you're gonna get better and better until you're good enough. It's gonna look pretty darn close. A

Speaker 2 26:36

Little perfect.<laugh>. I see people get so discouraged because maybe their class didn't sell out. Mm-hmm.<affirmative>, a lot of times I'm seen in the cookie college people are like, my, my Christmas class sold out. But why is

Speaker 1 26:47

My welcome to the

Speaker 2 26:48

Spring class filling

Speaker 1 26:49

Out?

Speaker 2 26:50

The thing is don't give up Now if you know that your Christmas class sold out, there's people out there willing to,

Speaker 1 26:56

You know, you can do it. You know you can do it. Do it. So

Speaker 2 26:59

You can't get discouraged and be like, well I guess it's neat. No hun. It's probably

Speaker 1 27:02

The day you chose Uhhuh.<affirmative>. It's, and not to mention December is a license to sprint money. If we set all our perfect expectations on what we see in December, well the rest of the year is gonna look outrageously

Speaker 2 27:13

Terrible. For sure.

Speaker 1 27:15

So kind of standing in the way of good enough, there's a point at which any further optimization's just probably gonna actually detract from it. I see. That allow with clients. I think a lot of the clients that I work with that wanna go through four iterations and five iterations and changes and tweaks. I'm like, you are, you're hold, you're holding yourself back. I'm the, I'm the fall guy for this Uhhuh<affirmative>. But there's something you're scared about on the other side of this. You don't wanna execute because you don't want the good enough pushback. Yeah. And if we wait for perfection, if you, if we had to wait until the cookie college was perfect, we launched the cookie. College was 20 feet, 20 courses.

Speaker 2 27:46

We launched the cookie college was not complete the day that we launched.

Speaker 1 27:51

Uh, yeah. And I think you and I said, well we just gotta, we just gotta do it. If anything Corey and I put it off for a year. We did. And then we finally said, okay, well our deadline was launching before Cookie Con. You'll never guess what day we launched on the day before Cookie Con. Yeah. Uh, we cut enough, put it back any farther. Right. We launched it and then we had to drive the 12 hours down. Why we drove there. I don't what

Speaker 2 28:13

If we went to Cookie Con and be like, Hey, we're the twins. You know, we have something that's in the

Speaker 1 28:17

Works. It's not ready yet. It's getting perfected though. It's coming

Speaker 2 28:20

Once. It's perfect. You'll never about 2034

Speaker 1 28:23

<laugh>. Look out for it. It's gonna be great. It'll be perfect. None of the marketing will still apply anymore because it will have expired. Uh, so we launched the cookie college and then Corey and I sat down and said, let's keep making this good enough. Let's, let's every month make it a little bit good enough.

Speaker 2 28:37

Yeah. And we took feedback from people never getting offended about the feedback. We appreciate the feedback. People were like, I want longer videos. I don't want'em in such short segments. Can you list them like this? And never did we say, oh man, see the feedback.

Speaker 1 28:51

Don't let want it. Let's just, let's shut it down. Yeah. It's not, it's not working. Will you say, when you take a good enough mindset, you run everything through the good enough filter. So that way when someone's like, Hey, I wasn't really exactly happy with this, you're like, oh good. It was only good enough. Yeah. I'm so glad you came out to it. How can I get just a little bit better?

Speaker 2 29:06

Yeah. I think I like when people have the perspective of it's the customer, it's the business and it's me. Yeah. So if my class doesn't sell out, it's not that I'm not a good enough teacher. No. It's that, that day was not good enough for my business.

Speaker 1 29:20

Right. And this client's gonna tell us how to make it good enough. Yeah.

Speaker 2 29:23

And then they're gonna be like, Hey, I didn't, you know, I didn't get a reply back, you know, so I'm gonna cancel my order because there was not good communication.

Speaker 1 29:30

Really? Oh my goodness. Yeah. It wasn't good enough. Thank

Speaker 2 29:32

You. So thank you so much for looking out for me. I love that feedback makes me a better business

Speaker 1 29:35

Owner. You know what the business owner was able to do? They were able to get that feedback because they were okay with not being the best. Yeah.

Speaker 2 29:41

Because they didn't take it personally.

Speaker 1 29:43

And if you take it there has, there's two phases of good enough not taking things personally and being okay with not being perfect. Yes. And when you can marry those two together, your second life starts because you'll realize that not everyone is out to attack you. And how could you take an attack personally? You're not perfect. Yeah.

Speaker 2 30:00

It's

Speaker 1 30:01

So sometimes

Speaker 2 30:02

I will, Heather will call me and be like, can you believe this client said something? I say, Hey man, it's you girl<laugh>.

Speaker 1 30:08

They mad at

Speaker 2 30:08

Whatever this little website is.<laugh>

Speaker 1 30:12

Hey. Yeah. And Corey be like, don't take it personally. They were gonna yell at somebody. It just happened to be your time.

Speaker 2 30:16

Okay,

Speaker 1 30:16

Well hear my feelings. He's like, yeah, meet you to Algar. Uh, but yeah, don't take it personally. You are not perfect. And guess what? You're, you're allowed not to be perfect. You are allowed to be a subpar

Speaker 2 30:31

Baker. You are. You

Speaker 1 30:32

Do not have to be on the food network to be able to sell. And you don't need 10 years of experience at teach a cookie class.

Speaker 2 30:38

Are you sure?

Speaker 1 30:39

I'm not now tested it<laugh> where? And I have taught hundreds and hundreds of people, which sounds scary at this point. And they've had such a great time. And the few that have come back and said, Hey, my time was less than, I'm like, Hey, you know what, thank you so much for the feedback. Here's a refund.

Speaker 2 30:54

How many people have said that?

Speaker 1 30:56

No one has ever said they didn't like the class. Cuz my jokes land every time. Uh, but no, when somebody says, let's see in the cookie college. Yeah. Somebody had said like, it's not what I thought it would be. And I was like, thank you so much. Would you like a refund? I want you to be happy spending your money. Mm-hmm<affirmative>. And she's like, you know what? Actually I was happy what it was. Uh, no I don't wanna refund, but thank you so much for offering. Yeah. And I was like, great. It didn't, I didn't say, oh this, you

Speaker 2 31:20

Didn't internalize it and been

Speaker 1 31:21

Like, oh my goodness. I didn't take it as defeatist and I didn't take it as anger. I took it as this person exists on a planet that I exist. Yeah. And we probably drive to very different cars cuz we have two very different sets of preferences. Uhhuh that drive. Like there's people buying sports cars, there's people buying minivans and we're driving on the same roads. Uhhuh<affirmative>. So clearly we have a different set of requirements that make us happier satiate. But if we wait until the perfect vehicle comes out that say sheets, both them car

Speaker 2 31:49

Mileage<laugh>. We also want no back

Speaker 1 31:52

Seats. I had a new place to put my kids though.

Speaker 2 31:54

I wanna go fast doing it.<laugh>

Speaker 1 31:56

And we'll never, they'll, no car company would ever produce a car if that's what they were waiting on. So you know what car companies do? They produce a bunch of different cars. Very definitely that fit different people and the cars aren't perfect in any way. The minivan has tons of storage. Yeah. But it's also not as cool looking. I know minivans are like Yeah it's cool.<laugh> what's that one that's really cool

Speaker 2 32:13

Looking looking? There's a really cool one. Yeah. What it called has uh, what are you talking about?

Speaker 1 32:16

The minivan. That's cool.

Speaker 2 32:17

I don't know what cool one. Don't they? What kinda look name?

Speaker 1 32:20

No, they came out with this new one.

Speaker 2 32:21

Is it a Kia?

Speaker 1 32:22

It might be,

Speaker 2 32:23

Yeah.

Speaker 1 32:24

Oh is it Carnival? Carnival Kia? Carnival

Speaker 2 32:26

Carnival. Or is it Hyundai Carnival? I

Speaker 1 32:29

Don't know if

Speaker 2 32:29

You have one alien. Yeah. So it's like,

Speaker 1 32:31

Nah,<laugh>. I was

Speaker 2 32:32

Like, I'm in it. There is one when I used to sell cars, obviously I sat in a bazillion of'em. Yeah. There was one that had a vacuum in it. Smart

Speaker 1 32:41

Vacuum. That's genius.

Speaker 2 32:42

And then there was one you could actually turn the

Speaker 1 32:44

Seats Genius.

Speaker 2 32:45

You could turn a turn up. Was that

Speaker 1 32:47

Gonna pass a crash? Huh? Is that gonna pass a crash? Yes.

Speaker 2 32:50

I dunno. But it was there. It's definitely there. Thought.

Speaker 1 32:54

So if Toyota Toyota's okay with putting out a, the 86, the Tacoma and what's the Sienna? Yeah. Then we are okay with putting out a product that may not be perfect for everybody, but you'll find your client base that's absolutely saying this is good enough for

Speaker 2 33:10

Me. Right? Yeah. When my clients come to me, they usually have seen what I've done. They're not asking for an amazing floral<laugh>. They know they ain't good, but what they are asking for is a pretty cute unicorn. And I cannot knock that outta the park.

Speaker 1 33:22

But let us give you permission. If you wanna hold yourself back and wait for perfection, you're allowed to, you're absolutely allowed to wait until the day that you're finally perfect.

Speaker 2 33:31

You

Speaker 1 33:31

Cannot complain about your lack of income though. And you cannot complain about being scared when not making sales cuz you actually enjoy that. That's what you want. Mm-hmm.<affirmative> by waiting for perfection. You are saying secretly or publicly. I actually don't wanna make sales. I don't wanna deal with that. That sounds outrageous and it sounds kind of stressful. I do wanna be perfect though, so I'm not going to execute. Thank you so much for this podcast. Didn't agree with it at all.<laugh>, me and my Toyota Sienna sports car unsubscribe. Don't

Speaker 2 33:56

<laugh>.

Speaker 1 33:57

But on the flip side, my cousin, our cousin, she's, she says I'm, she's a perfectionist and she absolutely hates it because she knows perfection holds her back or it keeps her up really late at night trying to be

Speaker 2 34:12

Perfect. Yeah. Man, I could have been sleeping easy.

Speaker 1 34:14

<laugh>, I assume anything this is not a perfect day that that

Speaker 2 34:17

Crater I'm gonna be sleeping that one. It's

Speaker 1 34:19

Not a perfect day, but that pillow is pretty

Speaker 2 34:20

Perfect.<laugh>,

Speaker 1 34:22

Our older sister did this thing and I used to be jealous of it, but she told us once that it was her prison. She'd rewrite her notes in class. Perfect, perfect handwriting. It's

Speaker 2 34:31

So sweet. Scribble down the notes in class and then come home and spend hours,

Speaker 1 34:35

Hours. My mom would be like, Ashley, you don't need to do that. But she's like, no, I need them to look that dangerous word. Perfect. Perfect, perfect. Corey and I have graduated chicken scratch. I can hardly read it.

Speaker 2 34:47

I, I don't even think I wrote

Speaker 1 34:48

Anything down high. I was trying to read something I wrote to somebody else. It sounded like I was learning how to read

Speaker 2 34:54

<laugh>. When were you physically writing something?

Speaker 1 34:57

Wrote dumb notes to the therapist and I was like, lemme read you<laugh>. Oh lemme now I can't read it.<laugh>. It was good enough. It was good enough. You know, I was listening to this TikTok and this girl was like, Hey, journaling really helps. But what you guys don't realize is you actually don't need to go back and read it. So just scroll.

Speaker 2 35:15

Yeah. I don't think I would want to read what

Speaker 1 35:17

I have to say. Right. So she says just think through your thoughts but doodle on a piece of paper, it's the equivalent. Like do a doodle like

Speaker 2 35:24

A flower while

Speaker 1 35:25

I'm thinking No, she did like loop delos and she's like this. You're not going to go back and read this, but it's the space for your thoughts is what you are actually looking for. No, because I didn't, I don't even me reading that to that poor lady, I was like, well, you

Speaker 2 35:37

Know how many times I tried to start a diary or journal? It always is

Speaker 1 35:41

Painful. Reg Youk,

Speaker 2 35:42

<laugh>. I ne never finished

Speaker 1 35:43

It.<laugh>. I just wrote table. This is the perfect, I'm not doing it.

Speaker 2 35:47

<laugh>.

Speaker 1 35:49

If we waited, Corey and I ha launched the Sugar Cookie Morgan group and have gone to through so many iterations of how we wanted to manage it as a group changed itself. Had we waited for the perfect playbook Yeah. To manage this group. It would still be in the hopes and dreams space

Speaker 2 36:05

With our marketing company. I just quit my day job and said

Speaker 1 36:08

We're starting. I know I talked about this in podcast, but I wanna, I wanna everyone know the trauma. If you're wondering why I talking to therapist<laugh> started this thing. I love, I love the hope and dream phase.

Speaker 2 36:18

Heather loves a plan.

Speaker 1 36:19

I love it. I love it. Give me a mind map.

Speaker 2 36:22

I don't like a

Speaker 1 36:23

Plan. No. Corey likes action execution. Corey, I say I think two years in front of me, Corey thinks two inches<laugh> and we average about one year<laugh>, but every year we'd go to the beach and I'd be like, Hey, you know, I just think we would rolling cold to just do marketing. Like we both do it in our, you know, Corey sleazy car salesman, me actually marketing and flipping websites. I said with our powers, come mine. I think we could really do it. And then the beach week would end and then the the the sunburn conversation would end<laugh>. Yeah. And then, and then next year, like, Hey you know what, like cuz you know like you're sitting on the beach one. Yeah. You're trying to pretend it's enjoyable to be roasting,

Speaker 2 36:56

But<laugh> it's hot, it's

Speaker 1 36:58

Human. Kids are screaming. My Coke is now hotter.<laugh>. Yeah, that's hard. And and then I'd say it again the next year, like I really think it'd be cool and then, okay, so one day it's like a Tuesday, I think it might have been in like February, so it's like sad and Corey said, Hey, calls me, which you know, Corey and I have this policy no calling unless there's something majorly wrong. Yeah. And I'm like, hello? And she's like, Hey, you know how you talked about in June, uh, that you wanna start the marketing company? Yeah. Yeah. I really think that would be, I think we, and she's like, anyways, tomorrow is open for me because I just quit my job<laugh>, uh, two seconds ago and I think we should start it. And I wanna let you know the sweat, the sweat that to

Speaker 2 37:37

Me, I knew we were gonna do it. Heather says anytime Corey will be successful at it. Whatever we put our minds to. So if we were gonna go and work at Targe in the dollar spot, it was gonna be the most organized spot in Target.

Speaker 1 37:49

<laugh>. Yeah. And it, but here's the thing. Corey and I were not ready. We were not ready. No. And we still aren't ready. And we've been doing it for years. We will never be ready. In fact, the software that I used five years ago or six years ago, however long it was, is not even an existence anymore. That is how you'll never be ready. Things are con chat. GTP has completely negated a lot of the things I learned five years ago. Yeah. Uh, it's just, it's just absolutely wild. I think that in, in the past six years, I thought Google would always be the king of search. And I think Microsoft's acquisition of Chad GTP or the investment will be thrown in. And again, the whole, the whole industry changes at

Speaker 2 38:25

The end of the day when a client comes to us and we're like, I feel confident I can do this job for you. I feel confident I can bake this set

Speaker 1 38:33

For you. I am good enough to do this job the way you want it. Yeah. But here's the thing. Corey and I, and likely most of the people listening to this podcast, unless Tom Cruise listens and he's perfect, we are not perfect<laugh>. We are good enough. And that is good enough. Now you are going to convince yourself that good enough is not good enough if you compare yourself a lot. Yeah. It is dangerous. It is great to encourage people that are better than us to build them up because you know what? You can get better than you are yesterday. Yeah. But if you compare yourself to somebody who's considerably better than you, well you are, that's a very negative mindset to have. Of course they're, they're better than you. You've probably been doing it for longer. They naturally, they, I am not naturally talented at anything. And that's what set me free.

Speaker 2 39:15

I am, I, I cried myself out of art class<laugh>, so then I can even make an image. Right

Speaker 1 39:20

Corey, we had this art class that my parents just were convinced that we were these closet picassos. I dunno what<laugh> and uh, he had this interesting thing. I thought it was a good idea. You had a reach into a grab bag, but you couldn't see what you were touching. You had

Speaker 2 39:35

To feel what you were

Speaker 1 39:37

Feeling and you had to draw it<laugh>. And I think I had a, I've had a plastic fish and Corey had a, I had a

Speaker 2 39:42

Light switch box. Like they took the thing outta the wall, never have my hand felt the back of a light switch, the part that

Speaker 1 39:49

Comes outta the wall. So I'm

Speaker 2 39:50

Drawing a square and a square and he's like, yeah, you know, we can add a lot

Speaker 1 39:54

More depth. I wanna tell you guys my three me, me and my two sisters, the three of us are the only people who signed up for this public art class.<laugh>. Corey cried. We never came back and he had to close it. So<laugh> sorry. Sorry. You have got to just relieve yourself of the notion that perfectionist required in business ownership because it's not, it won't be. It can never be. And if every business owner out there waited go watch uh, the McDonald's documentary, it's very interesting. It's also you're kind of like, eh, I think that's not ethical. But you realize that he got started not perfect and now look at McDonald's. Everybody knows in the whole room

Speaker 2 40:27

Still not perfect<laugh>. But I mean

Speaker 1 40:29

There was definitely a pickle rest. Don't have a pickle<laugh>.

Speaker 2 40:32

I will say, if you can say to yourself each morning, look yourself in the mirror and say, you know, I'm not perfect but I'm good enough. That's going to change your whole perspective.

Speaker 1 40:41

Oh my goodness. Talk about now scroll through Instagram with a good enough mindset. Oh,

Speaker 2 40:46

Then you're gonna be liking

Speaker 1 40:47

Everything. You'll be like, Hey, I love that you're good at this and hopefully one day I'll take a classroom so I'll be good enough. I

Speaker 2 40:53

Know it really will set yourself free. Um, if you just realized you don't have to be perfect. No one's requiring that of yourself but you

Speaker 1 41:01

Exactly. Really man. Uh, just good enough. That's the thing. Like I one, one of my do dreams. I'm gonna do it. Okay. Maybe I'll have to quit Job<laugh>

Speaker 2 41:10

In your diary.

Speaker 1 41:11

Did you write it in in your journal? I do<laugh>. I don't like reading my own handwriting so I can't bring myself in. You said

Speaker 2 41:16

It wasn't, you just write and you don't.

Speaker 1 41:18

I know, but to scribble also felt weird.

Speaker 2 41:20

I just am not a writer. I'm

Speaker 1 41:22

Not a writer either. Should we write,

Speaker 2 41:25

Should we? I just don't think

Speaker 1 41:26

I say is really good for your happiness and your overall like mental state. I

Speaker 2 41:30

Feel like I'm happy

Speaker 1 41:30

Anyways. Are you happy?

Speaker 2 41:32

I like, I think a a lot and talk to myself a lot. Is that kind of like journaling probably a personal journal.

Speaker 1 41:37

Are you processing or are you like frothing

Speaker 2 41:40

We're just fro frothing at the

Speaker 1 41:41

Mouth? No, in my mind, you know how like you go to Starbucks drink and they froth it, it gets more and more, but just like, like if you take a rumination thought, like if you take a negative thought and you keep giving it energy, it kind of froth a bit.<laugh>

Speaker 2 41:52

Of not frothing anymore.

Speaker 1 41:54

<laugh>. Yeah. But you have to take the active role in no longer frothing, no longer mental

Speaker 2 41:58

Frothy. Yeah. I will say I think the anxiety meds helped<laugh> because I was not

Speaker 1 42:03

Doing it. That is exactly ugly. What they're intended for is to soft the downward cycle. Yes. And and a great way again, Corey and I, not therapist, pain therapist<laugh>, uh, a great way to do that is just fall out of love with perfection. It's dangerous. It's so cool. The thought of being perfect or being excellent or being an expert or being the top 1%, that is, that is a nice little thought. Yeah, it is very hard to get there. A lot of us don't need to, uh, a lot of us are just great at operating in good enough and you'll acquire a lot of the lifestyle that you actually want existing and good enough.

Speaker 2 42:36

I will say me and my husband have different ideas of the gym. Okay. He wants to go in there and lift more than everyone else. He wants to be perfect

Speaker 1 42:44

At lifting. That's his good enough. Yeah. That's his perfection.

Speaker 2 42:47

When he comes home, he's always in a negative mood because

Speaker 1 42:49

He wasn't,

Speaker 2 42:50

Because he did not because he's in his mid thirties<laugh> and is knee heard<laugh> and he didn't lift all the weight. But when I go to the gym, I'm just happy I walked in there. You're good enough. What's good enough,<laugh>. I'm just happy that my body made it through the

Speaker 1 43:03

Door.<laugh>. Yeah. Falling in love with good enough really is the key to an easy existence. I think for me. I was like, I should go to the gym. But you know what's good enough? Uhhuh<affirmative> a 30 minute walk. And I have thoroughly enjoyed the freedom of good

Speaker 2 43:15

Enough walks. Yeah.

Speaker 1 43:17

I

Speaker 2 43:17

Will say Arch is pretty much a straight A student and the only reason I was like, oh you got a B because you got a B And he usually gets straight A's. And I was like,

Speaker 1 43:24

Oh you gotta, he's gonna be talking to a therapist one day be like, yeah. She said, you gotta

Speaker 2 43:27

<laugh>. I was like, oh you gotta B in math. And he was like, yeah, that's good enough. He said, it's not a C gosh. On record, not a C

Speaker 1 43:34

Boy boy point.

Speaker 2 43:35

Let's go to the<inaudible>.<laugh>.

Speaker 1 43:38

Yeah. So in terms of thinking of your business as good enough, your email copy will never be perfect. You'll have typos. Sometimes I re-read my emails, which I'm very proud of and I'm like, oh, love

Speaker 2 43:48

Yours. And finding a typo.

Speaker 1 43:49

I hate it. Sometimes I'll be like, I'll literally think, remember that one time I wrote this email, pull it up and I'll be like, oh my Lord.<laugh>, there was a giant

Speaker 2 43:58

Typo

Speaker 1 43:58

There. I can't even write it again. But you know what, the email was sent and it accomplished whatever it needed to do. Yeah. Had I waited for it to be perfect. It would've never happened. Mm-hmm.<affirmative> and none of my life would be the way it is today if I waited for things to be perfect. Perfect. Is a very, very, very dangerous word.

Speaker 2 44:16

It is. I wouldn't know. Cause I'm not one

Speaker 1 44:20

<laugh>. Never heard of her<laugh>. Uh, but yeah, I would say if you can kind of take a self-assessment of where you're holding yourself to a perfect standard, uh, note that it's holding you back. Mm-hmm.<affirmative>. And, and just be weird if you like, Hey, I like it. I like that. I like holding myself back. We'll never tell people that you like holding yourself back. I'll keep, I'll keep the secret. Take it to my grave. Yeah. Uh, but as long as you know that that's what's holding you back, I'll

Speaker 2 44:43

Never tell you. You know that we know that, you know

Speaker 1 44:46

<laugh>. Yeah. Just, uh, execute. Let's say you launch a class and four people sign up. Welcome to me. And Corey's first class, that was how many people signed up and we were like, this will be good enough for practice around. Yeah. I said, I at

Speaker 2 44:57

Least will not be nervous.

Speaker 1 44:58

<laugh>. Yeah. And nobody complained. Even though it was our first class and they were like four people. Yeah. We were like, cool. This is good enough. Yeah. And then consecutively good enough classes have led to considerably better classes. Are our classes perfect? Absolutely not. And I don't think they ever will be. Nah.

Speaker 2 45:15

There's always something

Speaker 1 45:16

That pops up. There's always something. But they're pretty good enough. Yeah. They're consistently good enough that we have an income stream of good enough classes. Yeah. And as you continue to gain the good enough experience, which you cannot, you cannot gain with perfectionism. Cause you'll never be perfect. The good enough experience will create a business owner in you that can withstand so much more and push out so much more that you'll be leaps and bounds ahead of the perfect person. Yeah.

Speaker 2 45:43

And I will say

Speaker 1 45:45

Of all the people

Speaker 2 45:45

Who are like, I didn't, you know what? The only thing I wish is that I would've started sooner. You

Speaker 1 45:50

Never hear people say, you know what? I wish I would start later.

Speaker 2 45:52

<laugh> I wish was not ready.

Speaker 1 45:53

I should still be putting Elephant. You know what? I think I'm might<laugh> uh, head coiner. I waited to launch. I'm just giving you examples of how imperfect we are. But how great it kind of worked out. Yeah. Please. I would love to let This podcast was a nightmare to launch. Yeah. Right. It was such a, I was like,

Speaker 2 46:08

Kelly, you know what? Let's start a podcast. Can you go get the stuff?<laugh>?

Speaker 1 46:12

We ordered the stuff. I just had Googled a YouTube video. Yeah. The YouTube guy said the links are below. Okay. I don't know. I ordered the wrong stuff. We returned some of it. Uh, then we tried to record it five times. Couldn't figure out how to. I thought you upload straight to Spotify. Absolutely no<laugh> how to Google something else. Some guy had an affiliate link. Yeah. He got 20 bucks. I got 20 bucks. How many

Speaker 2 46:30

Podcasts we filmed where we have not recorded. The sound is un

Speaker 1 46:36

Yeah. How many podcasts? We, I like Corey. Look

Speaker 2 46:38

Down to see

Speaker 1 46:39

It wasn't this one<laugh>. Uh, but uh, Corey and I recorded this podcast. We already did an intro. Uh, Corey thought we talked about getting pulled over too often. So we recorded another one. It wasn't good enough. And this one didn't

Speaker 2 46:50

Seem like it was a criminal. That's not<laugh>.

Speaker 1 46:53

I'm good enough.

Speaker 2 46:54

<laugh>.

Speaker 1 46:55

But yeah, if this helps one person out there allow themselves to move the permission, the permission to not be perfect, to be good enough, then by all means be good enough. I guarantee you you're gonna have a less stressful life and then be good enough not to take it personally because you're gonna be good enough and you will make mistakes cuz you're not perfect. And it's okay because I'd rather you post something on Instagram today that's not good. That's not perfect. It's just good enough. And then a year from now throw up in your mouth a little bit like I do when I look at the old stuff and be like, but it was up and I made a sale. And I can tell you exactly what that post brought me. Yeah.

Speaker 2 47:29

One of my first reels uploaded. No sound<laugh>. Someone's like, is there something wrong? I don't hear any sound i's like, oh no. That was me.<laugh>.

Speaker 1 47:37

<laugh>. Enjoy. Listen, one of the cookie college courses, somebody's like, there's no audio. And I said, well there, there's none. I'll have to go back and record it. Thank you so much. You were listening<laugh> and you were not. Cause it was so sound

Speaker 2 47:51

<laugh>.

Speaker 1 47:51

But yeah, just speak good enough and don't take it so personally, life is a little bit more fun than I think we give it credit for. And it exists in the space between perfectionism and just good enough. Mm-hmm<affirmative>. Um, once you realize likely none of us are perfect. Um, and to be perfect. That would be a lot of work.

Speaker 2 48:07

Ask me. I know.

Speaker 1 48:09

What do you, what do you think you're the most talented in the

Speaker 2 48:12

Most sleeping. I can get a good

Speaker 1 48:14

Straight a I'm you, you're

Speaker 2 48:15

Near perfect. I'm good at sleeping. I

Speaker 1 48:17

Did I tell him that I thought your Fitbit had glitched cuz it said 12 hours and you were like, no, no, no. That was a really good nightmare.

Speaker 2 48:22

My little Apple watch is like you have hit your goal sleeping length every day. I

Speaker 1 48:28

Have honestly made a promise myself this week to try to catch up to your sleep window. Listen, sleep opportunity.

Speaker 2 48:33

Listen, when is that thing you told me to take that helps you with dreams

Speaker 1 48:39

Ol and I'm gonna tell you, uh, Andrew Huberman said that if Andrew Huberman said, Hey kidnapping people'll help you sleep better, I'll be like, they're all in the basement now. I'm gonna sleep. He

Speaker 2 48:45

Also said, if you'd marry me, you'd be like, Ashley, where do I sign

Speaker 1 48:49

<laugh>? Oh, I wouldn't marry him in Harvey. I don't care what he says. I love it. But he said, take Anis Atol the supplement to do what? Sleep better. He said it's a neurotransmitter support thing, whatever. But he also said warning crazy dreams.

Speaker 2 49:02

It I love, I love dreaming. I

Speaker 1 49:06

Love itIt. So Corey take, so I tell Corey, Andrew Huberman said Take Anatol. But I don't tell her at the caveat that, Hey, by the way, some people have crazy dreams on it. A week later Corey's like, I've been having these crazy dreams. I said, oh my goodness. That was a side effect.<laugh>.

Speaker 2 49:18

Yeah. But now I'm so addicted to the crazy dreams that I take it every night and I am so excited. Go to bed. Good.

Speaker 1 49:23

Are you driving a Ferrari or are you you driving far off a cliff? Me

Speaker 2 49:27

And you are at Disney one. Oh, I'm

Speaker 1 49:28

Involved.

Speaker 2 49:29

I'm always angry at you in these dreams. I don't know,

Speaker 1 49:31

I only have dreams about you, but we're teenagers and I'm so mad. Yes.

Speaker 2 49:35

We were at Disney World and you wandered out out of the park to eat our lunch and I said we were outside the park. They could kick us out.<laugh> you like, you know what, I wanna eat my lunch. Right.<laugh>, I'm back. What's that

Speaker 1 49:49

Bunch of Disney people are screaming at their

Speaker 2 49:51

Pocket.

Speaker 1 49:51

Yeah.<laugh>. Well yeah. Why are we talking about this? Oh cause you're really good at sleeping. Really good at, what am I gonna, what is your thing? I would love trying new things. Not being good at any of'em. I had to make peace with not being good at anything a long time ago. When you start trying new things, you're extremely bad.

Speaker 2 50:04

But you have a knack

Speaker 1 50:05

Of trying things. Never becoming good. Just trying.

Speaker 2 50:08

I don't like putting myself out there at all.

Speaker 1 50:10

It's hard to be consistently a failure.

Speaker 2 50:12

Yeah. You really have to. You

Speaker 1 50:14

Really have to be like, okay, I'm going to do this poorly and I'm gonna do that poorly later.

Speaker 2 50:18

But you've been like naturally good at the things. Granted the person you were doing it with was horrendous. So really like perspective.

Speaker 1 50:23

I really need somebody to like up.

Speaker 3 50:26

I'm better than you. You<laugh>. I'm worse than everybody here.<laugh>. But you act. Got you babe.

Speaker 1 50:32

I should date again tonight.

Speaker 3 50:34

<laugh>. No<laugh>. Uh,

Speaker 1 50:36

Yeah. Very far off. I'm perfect. I guess the both of us are.

Speaker 2 50:40

I'm pretty near. Do you think I'm more perfect than you

Speaker 1 50:43

At baking? A hundred percent. Oh

Speaker 2 50:45

Good. Come on. Cuz you don't even bake. You can't. That is

Speaker 1 50:47

A cheese. No, no, no, no, no. Maybe<laugh>.<laugh>. But I just to know where you came with an orange face. Yeah, I know. And to see what you can do. Now I'm very impressed. And when Heather says orange face

Speaker 2 50:57

Also that, that really sounds bad. But

Speaker 1 50:59

I But Corey draws dry dries<laugh> Corey draws this fa it doesn't matter if you say qu draws my face. It doesn't matter where she draws it. It looks exactly the same if you know my eyes and a bait nose, you know, uh, the tomato and the cha cucumber. Bob and Larry. Yeah. Bob from veggie details. Yeah. You draw that face. I do. Yeah. So I'm drawing for only reason. Corey had this weird obsession with drawing on the oranges. My mom would send to school with us for lunch. She thought it was very funny to put a face on her. But the face was that face. And that's why I just call it the orange

Speaker 3 51:29

Face.<laugh> steal my face on girl

Speaker 1 51:32

<laugh>. But then see you do macro may

Speaker 2 51:36

Macro and macro may and those two different things. Yeah. Ones, yeah. Now I'm not gonna tie, I'm not gonna

Speaker 3 51:42

Waste the tie<laugh>

Speaker 1 51:44

To see you come from the orange face guy to that. I'm like wow. You can truly be mediocre enough times to be good. Yeah.

Speaker 2 51:52

Yes.

Speaker 1 51:52

The switch, the light switch day. I hadn't, I thought for sure you and artistic talent. Nah, no. Not in playing the same field. No. But now look, you're drawn Macel A

Speaker 2 52:02

We're not. We're not side by side. Me in art artistry. But we may be down the same hall. You

Speaker 1 52:08

Learn<laugh>. You weren't talking real a

Speaker 3 52:10

Long time.

Speaker 1 52:11

<laugh> you and the orange face. We weren't talking so well what do you say?

Speaker 3 52:14

I'm perfect.<laugh> said you're perfect. You made me Yes something. And I said baking. You said compliment me more<laugh>. Did I say

Speaker 1 52:22

That? Yeah. Said what am I, what do you think I'm close to being perfect at? Did I say that? I don't know. Podcast people. Did you? I I feel why are we talking about your comment?

Speaker 2 52:30

What do we what? I don't think I would've said that. Watch me

Speaker 3 52:32

<laugh>.

Speaker 1 52:33

What do

Speaker 2 52:34

I think You're good at? You really good.

Speaker 1 52:36

Perfect.

Speaker 3 52:36

That's the word I said. But what

Speaker 2 52:37

Do I think you're perfect at? You're perfect.

Speaker 1 52:41

And knowing where your limits

Speaker 3 52:42

Are<laugh>, you're perfect

Speaker 1 52:44

At choosing the wrong men.

Speaker 3 52:46

<laugh> fair. Sure.

Speaker 1 52:49

It's given us many and anything to talk about.

Speaker 2 52:52

Let's move on to the cookie college. If you did not know the cookie class

Speaker 1 52:57

Kits, they're like, oh, I don't wanna sign up for something that is not perfect.

Speaker 3 53:00

It's pretty darn. You guys just talked on it for the last hour. The

Speaker 2 53:03

Cookie class kits has launched our April class, which

Speaker 1 53:07

Is an Easter.

Speaker 2 53:08

So cute themed. And it's adorable. We have a bunny with a floppy ear. We have the cutest little flower I ever did. See we have an egg. That'll be a fun one for class. A lot of wet on wet techniques for that one. You know, I

Speaker 1 53:20

Had to build the PowerPoint for this, which the PowerPoint you get is just take into class and play it for your audience. We have people who don't have access to a TV hookup. Just print it out. It's pretty awesome. But you know what you did this time that I thought was pretty nice. Nice. The egg is one step. The egg is one step. So it's every class is four icing, six cookies. And then we build out the step-by-step process so that in roughly we teach the class the decorating portion in an hour. At the end of an hour they'll have a completely cute set. But I thought Corey did an interesting one. The egg is a decorated egg, but it's wet and wet. So she gives them one slide, one step to have at, I think it would probably be a five to six minute cookie since it will.

Speaker 2 53:55

But everything else needed a little bit more time to crust over. Yeah. So that egg will actually buy your students some time to get to the rest of the set. But

Speaker 1 54:02

Also how fun you get to use every color on one cookie. I thought that was a pretty slick one. Thanks. Um, okay. I wanna just talk about

Speaker 2 54:09

Real quick the, hold

Speaker 1 54:12

On. Lemme see if I wanna text it in a question near

Speaker 2 54:14

I'm not done talking about my class

Speaker 1 54:15

Name. Oh, so sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 2 54:17

We are doing the next theme. I have chosen it.

Speaker 1 54:19

It is very cute. You are gonna tell'em what it is. You

Speaker 2 54:21

Can tell'em what it's, it

Speaker 1 54:22

Is a honey B bear theme and it's got gold browns. What are they? Yellows

Speaker 2 54:28

Obviously. Yeah. Black, yellow and brown and white. So

Speaker 1 54:32

You always have white in the class. Gloria says yes. And um, everything in this is gonna be super round. Yeah,

Speaker 2 54:37

We got a big old round bee. We have a round bear's face. He's cute honey comb. Um, honey pot hive. In the honey pot.

Speaker 1 54:45

It's super cute. So if you were saying, well what are you guys talking about? Cookie class kits is a monthly membership, but every month you get a new class curriculum to teach. Meaning the same classes that we teach, we actually teach these classes ourselves to our local audience. Yeah. The Easter one's gonna just knock it out the break. They're gonna,

Speaker 2 55:00

The Easter one is so much. It's so

Speaker 1 55:02

Cute. Yeah. So we have, you know, we we're gonna turn around and teach this, but it's everything you'd need to teach a cookie class. Just add you dough and icing. We tell you what icing to use. We tell you what uh, the cutters you can order them from. Sweet pink olive her.

Speaker 2 55:16

Yeah. You partnered with her

Speaker 1 55:16

To make it really easy. Is your cousin who draws this stuff? I

Speaker 2 55:19

Isn't. It is her cousin. The one who made the sticker for us is the one who's gonna

Speaker 1 55:22

Design. So there's quite a few hands in this honey pot to make this production drop every month. But it is so cute. Now we provide the links to the cookie cutters or the s stl fires files if you have your own printer. Uh, the shop list, everything that we use to create a class ourself. And then the probably the biggest thing is the photography, the PowerPoint steps and the promotional material. So I go as far as to write the copy for you, to give you the little graphics that you can post to your social media so you don't have to spend that much time taking photos. Let Corey and me do it for you. And then you can go out there and make sales.

Speaker 2 55:55

Mm-hmm.<affirmative>. And I will say I talked with Sweet Pink Olive yesterday. The, that honeybee theme class, which is our

Speaker 1 56:03

January

Speaker 2 56:04

Will be our April, may, may class. May class. It will be released at the end of March. So if so every

Speaker 1 56:09

First is the day I have it to

Speaker 2 56:11

Drop. She we will have it done the week before.

Speaker 1 56:14

Will you have my stuff to me by April

Speaker 2 56:16

One? Yes. She's sending my cutters out this week. Oh, no

Speaker 1 56:19

Way. Yeah. We're finally getting ahead. We're finally getting there. That'll be nice. Uh, if you, you wanna join cookie class kits, you can learn more about it@thecookiecollege.com slash um cookie dash classes or just go to the cookie college.com and learn about the other memberships. Now one thing I wanna add is cookie class kits membership is included in the overall cookie college membership, which is to say you get more bang for your buck when you sign up for the, the the bigger membership.

Speaker 2 56:45

Yeah. If you think about it, the cookie class kits is$63. The cookie college is 76. So fore$13, you get 90 courses

Speaker 1 56:53

<laugh>. Yeah. Yeah. And you get a ton of stuff cuz we do transfers courses free and the Facebook group, you get the Facebook group. So as much as I would love for you to do cl cookie class kits and that's all you need. Great. Yeah, for sure. However, if you want to get else better from us is perfect

Speaker 2 57:06

<laugh> just to go with the glasses.

Speaker 1 57:07

<laugh>. Yeah. Uh, really proud. I think the set was a door. I really like the Easter set. We just dropped it last week. Right. You

Speaker 2 57:13

Have said that about every single

Speaker 1 57:14

One of these classes you get better and bad. Yeah. You have my, okay, here's my, here's my list of how I like these. I think right now my favorite class is the February class, the Valentine's Day class. Valentine's Day. I really liked it. I just really liked it. It just was so vibey. Then I'm really liking the Easter class. I love the Easter class March class, which was spring theme. Yeah, it was. And then January class got sat on a little bit because we launched it right. With the Valentine's Day class. So you and I didn't get a chance to teach it either. Yeah, we didn't. But it was very

Speaker 2 57:43

Cute winter. It was, it was a winter World War theme. So it was like a ha I thought it

Speaker 1 57:47

Was a very cute set. Very cute set for sure. Uh, but yeah, this is really coming along. Very proud of everyone involved in creating this. And if the cookie college roomies, which they call themselves have any indication of how much they found success with it, then great. Cuz they're making, I mean people are saying like, wow,

Speaker 2 58:05

Tristan, who is second year of the cookie college, he used to be like a macaron baker, you know, like this past,

Speaker 1 58:13

He said at one point you'd never see him making a sugar cookie.

Speaker 2 58:15

Yeah. No,

Speaker 1 58:16

He never did. He bought a Eugene Do Dough sheeter. That man

Speaker 2 58:19

Has not made a macaron in 2023. But he has taught, I wanna say I I know eight classes just this past month. And then one cake class he's doing, I'm sugar

Speaker 1 58:30

Cookie doing classes. Yeah. But you taught them in the cookie college how to make the dough. You know, who's switching over to Sugar Ross? No. Cake Pop Ross. He sent me an email. He is like, what is the dough recipe said? Here it is. And I said, the icing recipes on the back of Bacony Bake. And he boasted today, got my bacon bake. Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 58:47

Good for

Speaker 1 58:48

Him. So yeah, just seeing people really kind of fall out of love with perfection and be like, I can do this. Yeah. And doing it and, and then to see their success and say, I I just wish I done it. It's

Speaker 2 58:57

So addicting

Speaker 1 58:57

To do that. Its so addicting. Um, here's the upcoming events today at four 30, which is probably when I'm gonna post this podcast. Yes. Uh, we'll have the sift app for managing admin stuff with Emily. So Emily is actually the app developer. Uh, she'd been posting a ton about this on her social media. Thank you Emily. Yeah. But the sift app, I would say is a competitor to the Bakey app competitor to job form. Uh, it's like inventory management. So it's probably gonna give, give you a little bit more functionality than job form. It seems like a great way to take orders and not wait for perfection. Yeah. I actually can't wait to hear about this. Oh yeah. Yeah. I think it'll be, I the only reason why I found it is cuz some people were like, you should check this out. Then I found her on social media and said, Hey, you should teach a class. And she was like, right. You wanna see someone who's really good at technical cookies. It's Oh really? She's a fantastic cookie. Is she perfect? Darn gosh. Darn. Near darn. Yeah. Uh, tomorrow at two. So that'll put us, what's today? Tuesday. So on Wednesday we'll have allergy friendly baking with Kim sips. Now if you, if you're curious about allergy friendly baking, if you think that you could offer it or if you wanna know if it's even a potential, definitely take this Kim Suffrage from Severe Allergies and so do her kids. So she has an allergy friendly bakery out of requirements. Oh nice. She gonna, I think she's gonna really let us know it's even potential for people. Cuz you don't wanna have that risk. It's whiskey business we talked about last week. Yes. Then we have with Lisa Girl Power Fives, women thrive in cottage food businesses. And she'll also give us, uh, in March 22nd insider tips to get the most out of the National Food Cottage Food Conference. Corey and I keynote speaker. We'll be speaking. I next, we'll record that next week. We'll record that next week. But that will be, that food conference is April 10th through the 13th. It is virtual. So if you say, where do I need to go? You need to go to your favorite spot on the couch. Yeah. And sit there. Then we have our cookie collab. Meet the Baker 2023. And that will be on March 24th. I think. Next week's podcast should be on how to get the most out of that. I like that. Okay. Maybe I'll do a live in the group one day about it.<laugh> before my time maybe. Oh, how if I, if I can feel good enough. You should make it real about it. That'd be a good content. I could do that. Uh, then we have Cookie Con Ohio. Now I wanna tell you about the sponsor Heather. Team. Heather. Fortunately this one got in<laugh>. Heather Brookshire is the sponsor. She's a Disney adult.<laugh>, but she's also a Disney trip planner and she's creating, and she sent me an email about it. A creating like a a if you say I wanna go to Cookie Conn, Florida. Yeah. Which is gonna be right next. It's in Orlando next to Disney. She's creating an itinerary. Like if you didn't know anybody and you wanted to go with a group of cookies to Disney. Oh no. That's how intense she's making this's. If you want to or she can just play in your family vacation. Um, but yeah, they have, she used emojis and all this a great, like I would love to stand on who doesn't wanna go to Disney with other people who wanna go to Disney but also have the same hobbies you do. Yeah. Who will talk nonstop cookies without their husbands rolling the crack cookies in Disney. And it's all planned with a free Disney trip planner. Definitely go to the Rainforest Cafe that's in Disney Springs. Loved it. There's one in Disney. Disney. We went to both, remember I got a picture table, right? Animal Kingdom. Yes. Did we go to both of the rainforest cafes? We did. We did. We did<laugh>. We didn't, we because we loved it so much. We had a rainforest cafe here in Tyson's. Didn't realize we were sitting on gold until it closed. Myths it That was such a gem and loved it when, when it got dark. And then the rainstorm. Yeah,

Speaker 2 1:02:21

The Oh the lightning and

Speaker 1 1:02:22

Thunder. And I love telling my parents, we're gonna go to the front. Look at the fish tanks.

Speaker 2 1:02:25

<laugh>. Bye

Speaker 1 1:02:26

<laugh>. You're gonna stand in that room that makes you look like you're glowing in the dark and your teeth are

Speaker 2 1:02:30

Wash<laugh>. Ah, I just thought that that was one of my favorite experiences in Disney. So I would say put it on your list. Is the food remarkable?

Speaker 1 1:02:38

Not at Rainforest Cafe. But if you go to that other place, not the Boathouse, the other one. We can't

Speaker 2 1:02:43

No. Someone already got mad at us. Don't even,

Speaker 1 1:02:45

I can Brick and I are what its name is, but that restaurant's food was impeccable. Yes. Wasn't esteemed. It was not Delectable for what it didn't do in themes and made up for a taste.

Speaker 2 1:02:56

What did I order there? That was so good.

Speaker 1 1:02:58

Did we get, I thought I got the Chile Sea bass belly.

Speaker 2 1:03:01

Did I get the lobster roll?

Speaker 1 1:03:02

You may have. I think I did. I think that would be what you did. Mm-hmm.<affirmative>. Anyways, the cookie Cone Ohio meetup, again, not a Disney trip, but it's at Sandusky with the giant indoor water park.

Speaker 2 1:03:12

Yes. What is that called?

Speaker 1 1:03:15

Khar.

Speaker 2 1:03:16

Calla. Khar Khar.

Speaker 1 1:03:18

Kor Khar. Uh, that'll be our meetup. Our happy hour will be May 1st. And then Cookie Con I think starts on May 2nd officially. But you can get there early and there's like some elective classes or something like

Speaker 2 1:03:27

That. Me and Heather will not be saying the whole time.

Speaker 1 1:03:30

Thank you for letting everybody know.

Speaker 2 1:03:32

Sorry.

Speaker 1 1:03:33

<laugh> has a kid. We gotta get the kid back to school. Kid back to. But we, I bribed corn. I said let's drive up two Cookie Con Ohio Little Girls' trip. Yeah. In a happy hour. Say hi to everybody Faces to names. I've got some bakery teaco short shirts that I wooded ed IED them. Did

Speaker 2 1:03:49

You order me some?

Speaker 1 1:03:50

I can give you one.

Speaker 2 1:03:51

Oh my soul. Well now I have a ton. Okay.

Speaker 1 1:03:54

Uh, and then should we actually add, uh, cookie Conn Ohio as it's tender?

Speaker 2 1:03:58

Her first one. First

Speaker 1 1:03:59

One. And she said she has so many shirts ready

Speaker 2 1:04:02

To go. I second girl when I see her, I won't be able to know what to

Speaker 1 1:04:05

Say. Say, I hope she, she said, I hope I can make the happier, but I will be setting up. I know because the, the vendor hall opens the next morning.

Speaker 2 1:04:13

Oh, we're gonna miss the VDI hall.

Speaker 1 1:04:14

I know. Gosh darn. You do not need to be spending more time. I

Speaker 2 1:04:17

Know. All right. But

Speaker 1 1:04:19

That'll be a blast. Uh, that'll be our cookie con Happy hour will be May 1st. And then we'll do a cookie con Happy hour in Florida. Again, that's a little farther away, but that's August 29th.

Speaker 2 1:04:28

Fun stuff.

Speaker 1 1:04:29

Fun. What a vibe. It is. There is less. There is fewer than 300 days in the

Speaker 2 1:04:34

Year. You love you. A calendar countdown.

Speaker 1 1:04:36

I actually have a formula that's counting down for me.

Speaker 2 1:04:39

<laugh>. Let's move on to sponsors. Sps. So sponsors make this podcast happen. If you thought this podcast was free and fancy, it's not<laugh>. We charged for it.<laugh>. Uh, but it's free to you to listen to. And that's because of our great sponsors. And I'm gonna start us off with ae core backers. Ae core backers. And she sent an email and I don't know if she said I was allowed to say this or not. Ohoh. She ha she's doing like what is it like when you have imperfect things you're selling?

Speaker 1 1:05:08

Um,

Speaker 2 1:05:09

Clarence Dent. Ding Hale. I like it. So she has some imperfect backwards.

Speaker 1 1:05:12

Oh, that's great. Get him guys. Don't sleep on them.

Speaker 2 1:05:14

And there's going to be a li she's limiting it to one, one Backer

Speaker 1 1:05:18

Per person. Well then now I want it even more.

Speaker 2 1:05:20

Wow. Surpris less Now you want it even more<laugh>. She didn't give an exact date

Speaker 1 1:05:25

Because she had a an exact prize.

Speaker 2 1:05:28

No, she said severely discount it

Speaker 1 1:05:30

Severe.

Speaker 2 1:05:30

I know. So there's a little few imperfection. She's like, nothing that you can't put a cookie over and take a, take a

Speaker 1 1:05:36

Photo of guys. A plate can cover multitude of six

Speaker 2 1:05:38

Again guys, if in a cookie, I, I tell you how to edit out in corrections<laugh>. So would be like it's even there. Oh, that's great. I know

Speaker 1 1:05:45

That. Would I

Speaker 2 1:05:46

That would be great starter. You're going to not tell you the date so I can get it first. Do you know She

Speaker 1 1:05:50

Hasn't told me the date. I know that if you follow her on Instagram, you're gonna be able to get some of information.

Speaker 2 1:05:54

Did you sign up for her email newsletter? That's how I found out she was running that sale the other day. Yeah. Cause it was just in my, my email inbox. Great. Yeah, she did a 25% off sale for a ton of the Matt backers, which I love the super mats. You

Speaker 1 1:06:07

Know what Acor gets more than most how Vend Blendy works. She saves at 30% off till that day. I know which Vend blendy guys if you want. It's all the way in November. So definitely Snag is something like this. I know her discounts that she randomly pops up, but this dent and ding sale is is the I

Speaker 2 1:06:24

Vibe. So they would be as is. So they're imperfect. So when you get'em, it would be you're buying as is. So

Speaker 1 1:06:31

I'm a refurb bay. Absolutely. Give me something that somebody didn't want at a fraction of the price all day long. So

Speaker 2 1:06:38

When she gives me the date, I will let you guys know after I purchased mine.

Speaker 1 1:06:42

<laugh>. Speaking of really awesome things, Eddie, the edible food printer is a direct to food

Speaker 2 1:06:49

Printer.

Speaker 1 1:06:50

Did I stutter? No. No. It prints on a food and it prints on more than just cookies. But I know we're a sugar cookie based podcast. Uh, to see this bad boy fire up. Yeah. It's an experience you're not gonna forget. No. Uh, it's very bright. It's very colorful and then it spits onto a cookie. The exact image. If you're thinking, well how can I use this? Imagine everywhere you use a stencil, multiply the color options by 50 million and divide the time it takes by two seconds. Yeah, that is, that is what this is. Now Eddie isn't cheap. He's$3,000. But if we, if you're a Refurbed Bay like I am, they have them You call them? Yeah. Don't, don't sign up on their website. Call them directly and ask'em to add you to a list. I've seen people say that the turnaround time for a refurb machine is now down to just a

Speaker 2 1:07:31

Week. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 1:07:32

Or there's a Facebook group. They don't do the Eddie for sale in the group anymore. They switched that a couple weeks ago. Oh nice. But there's a group where you can get other people's eddies who thought they would have more time. Yeah. Or maybe their situations change or maybe they just didn't find themselves using it. And I see some of the deals on that. Yeah. And, and then the, uh, warranty, uh, follows the machine, not the buyer.

Speaker 2 1:07:50

Yeah. So that's even So if they bought the warranty and they're selling their Eddie and you buy it, you get the warranty there. But they're

Speaker 1 1:07:56

Also, they're not just selling you that Eddie. They got the sassy trade. They got the Milton tray. What's the tray with the magnet thing that you want? The

Speaker 2 1:08:02

Sprinkle factories

Speaker 1 1:08:03

Tray sprinkle factory tray<laugh>. And they, and they got the cover and they got this and they're selling it all together and they got this and and they're selling it at such a discounted price that, I mean at the end of the day, what a, what a deal. I

Speaker 2 1:08:13

Know. But if you want to get one tomorrow<laugh>, you can buy a brand new one.<laugh> and

Speaker 1 1:08:17

I'll be there. Yeah. And Primera is the company that makes it really awesome people. I've not met many people as chill and laid back as them. Maybe like Mike and Karen from Cookie Con.

Speaker 2 1:08:26

They're

Speaker 1 1:08:26

Pretty chill.<laugh>. Lisa and John from the food conference. They're chill. We are. Anyone

Speaker 2 1:08:31

Putting up with us? Chill

Speaker 1 1:08:33

<laugh>. Natalie from Sweeting. Very chill. Very chill.<laugh>. But you can go to their Eddie Printer users group on Facebook. You, they just hit 20,000 members.

Speaker 2 1:08:43

No

Speaker 1 1:08:43

Way. Remember when they were just Yeah. Little babies. They grow up so quickly. The sponsors group up so quickly. They do. Leading us to our third sponsor

Speaker 2 1:08:49

Is a meringue powder. Now this is the meringue powder I use and I love, I think it's been maybe over a year and a half whenever we started the podcast is when I mm-hmm.<affirmative>.

Speaker 1 1:09:00

She took a risk. She took us

Speaker 2 1:09:02

<laugh>. She really did. I absolutely love her product. So she did good marketing cause I've bought it over since. Um, but what it is is a Mariah Powder that is called Royal Batch. And it's from a company called Bakey Bake. You can find it@bakerybakeridaho.com and use the code twins to get 10% off. But let me tell you guys, this already has three ingredients in it that you would typically purchase outside of your meringue powder. So you're saving money already. It has a uh, white food coloring in it so you don't have to add that

Speaker 1 1:09:32

Is hoping it would.

Speaker 2 1:09:33

Corn syrup is in there. Yes. But you can add x-ray if you want to. And the last but not least, vanilla

Speaker 1 1:09:39

Extract and new.

Speaker 2 1:09:40

It's got that great old taste in there. I have to go home and make a batch. For what? Life<laugh>. Really? I ran it outta ice

Speaker 1 1:09:48

<laugh>. Weren't you supposed to bring some cookies on Saturday?

Speaker 2 1:09:50

Yeah, but they're in the freezer so they're gonna be as good as new. But I'm gonna bring'em next Saturday if I remember.

Speaker 1 1:09:55

Please remember.

Speaker 2 1:09:56

Yeah, they're good.

Speaker 1 1:09:57

Are you off of your one day a week sweet

Speaker 2 1:10:00

Thing? Nope. Even Nate last night I was like, I thought I was eating a dunker.

Speaker 1 1:10:02

Oh, you're off. Cuz we had dessert at all.<laugh>. I

Speaker 2 1:10:05

Was like, I thought you, you're not doing dunker meal. They sell'em now. I know, I know, I know. Six

Speaker 1 1:10:09

At Target. They were delicious when I was five. They're, they're probably delicious when I'm 35.

Speaker 2 1:10:13

They're so stinking good. The problem I'm eating,

Speaker 1 1:10:17

I'm literally drilling. So<laugh>

Speaker 2 1:10:19

<laugh>.

Speaker 1 1:10:19

Yeah. How good are they?

Speaker 2 1:10:22

I like the vanilla. The vanilla cracker with the uh, yeah.

Speaker 1 1:10:25

Lemme ask you this Rainbow. Do you eat the crackers with a very smidgen until the last cracker? The last duck He gets last two cracks. Crackers

Speaker 2 1:10:33

Get giant scoop uhhuh<affirmative>. And the last guy giant

Speaker 1 1:10:35

Scoop. Here's the test. It was is the last cookie, the circle?

Speaker 2 1:10:39

It cannot be a crack.

Speaker 1 1:10:40

It has to be a circle because he'll well do they, they're only circles. Oh really? Cause it used to be a kangaroo.

Speaker 2 1:10:46

Are you

Speaker 1 1:10:47

In We were five and I ate them the last time.

Speaker 2 1:10:48

They're all circles. They're all circles. They're all circles with a letter D on it for dunk. Aoo.

Speaker 1 1:10:52

<laugh>. Ah. They used to have different other.

Speaker 2 1:10:54

Remember they're all themed. Did a circle because it's exactly

Speaker 1 1:10:57

Scoop the side. I would always save the circle to the last one to make sure you got any residual. Yeah,

Speaker 2 1:11:02

I, so what I do is two, I put two back

Speaker 1 1:11:04

To back. Is that buttercream?

Speaker 2 1:11:06

It it must be a shelf-stable buttercream because

Speaker 1 1:11:08

It's, oh, if you could make that into a cookie. Thanks<laugh>. That'd be great.

Speaker 2 1:11:12

<laugh>. You can buy the icing tubs

Speaker 1 1:11:14

Of dunkaroos.

Speaker 2 1:11:15

Not dunkaroos icing. But the same thing

Speaker 1 1:11:17

From Thank you. I have been to the baking aisle before. I appreciate that<laugh>. What

Speaker 2 1:11:21

They do is put two of the dunkaroos, the Dee's facing opposite of each other so they flee flat. Those are my two initial to dig through. There's no breakage to the cookies cuz they're side by side.

Speaker 1 1:11:32

You're doing a double stack of

Speaker 2 1:11:33

Cracker. A double stack of cracker. Oh, I, because I'm not breaking you. The worst thing is to have Are they breaks? Are

Speaker 1 1:11:39

They weaker from when

Speaker 2 1:11:39

They're weaker than from when we were kids?

Speaker 1 1:11:42

Oh, they, they have

Speaker 2 1:11:43

Formulate

Speaker 1 1:11:43

That was it. It's called. Okay. Uh, it's inflation if the price goes up. But it's shrink inflation if the product goes down. So shrink inflation hit in shrink place. But I, we will power through. We will survive<laugh>.

Speaker 2 1:11:54

I will test those dunks for you.

Speaker 1 1:11:56

<laugh>. Um, okay, well we not sure we took a left instead. Do

Speaker 2 1:11:59

You have any twin trust?

Speaker 1 1:12:01

You know, um, I don't know. Put me on the spot there.

Speaker 2 1:12:06

All right. My twin trust is for Christmas. I asked for this carpet cleaner.

Speaker 1 1:12:11

Yes. I would like to borrow it.

Speaker 2 1:12:14

For

Speaker 1 1:12:15

What? Okay, my confession. I uh, Andrew Huberman Uhhuh<affirmative> sponsor Uhhuh<affirmative> for his podcast is AG one Athletic Greens. That green drink.

Speaker 2 1:12:24

You dropped the

Speaker 1 1:12:26

Powder. I went to, no, I had made it into the mix and I didn't get the frothy green, A green in the bottom. And then I bent over to Pet Fibe poured it on Fibe. He's dye green if you look close. And I poured my carpet<laugh>

Speaker 2 1:12:38

And it's dye at green. Just same thing. Is it a water, a solu ball?

Speaker 1 1:12:43

He's one of those

Speaker 2 1:12:43

Extremely green. This weird like drink mixers And you put it and it's got a little but people use it for the

Speaker 1 1:12:50

Coffee. Did everyone just hear what I had to hear right there? Yeah baby. The frogy

Speaker 2 1:12:55

Thing. Yeah. Do

Speaker 1 1:12:56

You have that? No. I feel like that would help you. I think it would

Speaker 2 1:12:59

Because you just need to put it in there and then press the button. There wouldn't be no spillage.

Speaker 1 1:13:02

No. I bent over with a drink in my hand. It spillage is on. You're just an idiot. You just seen fever space.<laugh>. When is your hand is green?

Speaker 2 1:13:10

So this floor cleaner. Let me tell you. Love my dog.

Speaker 1 1:13:15

Do you,

Speaker 2 1:13:16

Most of the time

Speaker 1 1:13:17

You tolerate each other. He's the best obsessed with you

Speaker 2 1:13:20

Buds. Yeah, he's a little annoying. We, he is my shadow. Literally.

Speaker 1 1:13:23

He really is.

Speaker 2 1:13:25

Yesterday I do feel bad cuz he was trying to get out. But I have to leave the house to pick Archer up from school. It is one hour

Speaker 1 1:13:33

To get Archer

Speaker 2 1:13:35

From school. 22 minutes there. 22 minutes back. How does he move? 15 minutes in

Speaker 1 1:13:39

Life. Whoa. Wow. Yeah. Yep. Well you can watch the TikTok. We're gonna watch it anyway.<laugh>.

Speaker 2 1:13:46

So my dog, he only has accidents when it's explosive

Speaker 1 1:13:50

Diarrhea. Oh whoa. I don't think the body was right. Was coming. It's,

Speaker 2 1:13:53

It's just a bodily function. Poor guy was at the door in the basement. Of course the basement's only a place carpeted.

Speaker 1 1:13:59

Uhhuh you got man, it's, you can't

Speaker 2 1:14:03

Win that. Get mad upon entering. I said something

Speaker 1 1:14:06

<laugh>. There's a dead body downstairs. So

Speaker 2 1:14:09

I had a crank open. So I told my husband, I said I am frustrated but you need to get home and just pick up the initial, the initial stuff. Why

Speaker 1 1:14:17

Couldn't

Speaker 2 1:14:17

You? No, I was gagging. I couldn't, I couldn't be on the single level<laugh>. So, so he's like, I got it. You know, like when you understand like, so she is going to lose it. So he comes and goes straight down. I had already had the bag. Is he here again? No. It he, he said isn't it crazy I can't smell anything I said, I said this Sno, then I'm rocking smells everything. I can smell anything out of place. Huh. And he's like, I barely smelled it all. So it's like a team effort. But I had to go back down with this carpet cleaner. Did

Speaker 1 1:14:46

It work though?

Speaker 2 1:14:47

It's amazing. Really? It is uh, really amazing. The only thing, the only downside of course I use gloves obviously when I clean. Cuz you have to clean the, the tub where the poo water is. No.

Speaker 1 1:14:58

Well you gotta pay, you gotta pay the pipe Piper sometimes, which

Speaker 2 1:15:00

That really did gross me out when I thought about

Speaker 1 1:15:02

It.<laugh>. But here's the thing man, it's just what you gotta do. It's

Speaker 2 1:15:05

Just what you have to do.

Speaker 1 1:15:05

Yeah. So I

Speaker 2 1:15:06

Do wear gloves, cleaning it obviously cause I now poo wanna wear my hand. But that thing was amazing. Follow the direction though. You do need to let it sit. Like it's not just do you know the water, how soap works?

Speaker 1 1:15:17

It binds the chemical binds to the like dirt. And that's why you have to let soap sit. That's why Don Deso needs to sit to allow this chemical reaction. Yeah. It's not just a magic thing.

Speaker 2 1:15:29

Then on the same day, this is how my day went yesterday. Okay. Dropped an entire bottle of turquoise.

Speaker 1 1:15:36

Oh we saw that food color. That is exactly the what AG one Athletic greens looks like on carpet.<laugh>. Did it take it out of that? No way. Someone said and, and I think it was a, it was might be<inaudible>. I remember someone said buy four x

Speaker 2 1:15:49

Yeah I'm gonna buy it. People were swearing.

Speaker 1 1:15:51

Buy I put it in my, it was fex. No fourex. I put it in my Amazon car. It was fx. You continue. I got into my Amazon card.

Speaker 2 1:15:57

So I was devastated cuz this I am so mad at my husband. Every time he drops anything on this rug, it's a big rug from Targe. So I could not let him see that I had to dropped green all over there. But it was definitely stain cuz I like wiped it up instead of like blond it up because I was freaking out. But that

Speaker 1 1:16:14

PH instant carpet spot,

Speaker 2 1:16:15

Remember I can't wait. I'm gonna

Speaker 1 1:16:17

Buy that. People are like, this thing works

Speaker 2 1:16:18

So great. Yeah. So I'm gonna buy that. But then what I did was take everyone's tips and then I got the rest of the green up with that carpet cleaner thing. It's a, it's a handheld carpet cleaner but you don't wanna hold it the whole time. It's pretty heavy, but you can take it up the stairs.

Speaker 1 1:16:33

So you're telling me did it work on the green spot? Yes it did.

Speaker 2 1:16:35

You can't, there's a, because you know carpet is carpet but a, a rug is threaded. It's a

Speaker 1 1:16:40

Rug. Yeah. It's got some texturey to it.

Speaker 2 1:16:42

I can't, you would have to know.

Speaker 1 1:16:44

Flipped it over and did the back sign. Is it

Speaker 2 1:16:47

Too far? No, it's got like this thing out there.

Speaker 1 1:16:49

I couldn't see it. So do you know what it's called? Bile? Right?

Speaker 2 1:16:53

It's a Bissell one. I'd have to get you the model number if you wanted

Speaker 1 1:16:55

It. Well I'd just honestly like to borrow yours, which would be the fifth time at best.

Speaker 2 1:16:59

<laugh> don't literally come here. I want you to put water in there.

Speaker 1 1:17:05

That's

Speaker 2 1:17:06

Literally machine. I'll bring it on Saturday and then return it on Tuesday. Okay.

Speaker 1 1:17:12

Okay.

Speaker 2 1:17:13

And follow the direction.

Speaker 1 1:17:15

Yeah. My uh, my twin interest is, it is time for my car to go to the great beyond. But I wanted to get an antique car. If that sounds like a bad idea. It's probably cuz it is.

Speaker 2 1:17:28

And guys, when you She is, she's saying the word antique

Speaker 1 1:17:32

<laugh>. This car should be putting its kids through school. So<laugh>,

Speaker 2 1:17:35

She's saying the word antique, but okay. If you did not know one thing about Heather, she has been a car girly since day one. Oh my girl. This would not be a her first Dodge wiper. This would be her second tattoo.

Speaker 1 1:17:49

<laugh> kind of third, but yeah,

Speaker 2 1:17:50

Third. Remember third

Speaker 1 1:17:53

You got an X in there.

Speaker 3 1:17:54

<laugh><laugh>.

Speaker 1 1:17:55

I have an X experience in there. So

Speaker 2 1:17:57

Heather's car is going the way at the pooping water.

Speaker 3 1:18:00

<laugh><laugh>.

Speaker 1 1:18:02

I love my car to death, but I made a promise myself when it becomes a math problem, you gotta let it go. And that's math problem is, does it cost more to keep it on the road than it's worth? Uh, Carvana was like, be please

Speaker 3 1:18:12

<laugh>, you can just go leave it in the check

Speaker 1 1:18:15

Car. My car's really nice, but I do need to get the front axle replace. Which sounds expensive and it exceeds the cost of the trade-in value of the vehicle. Yeah. So I said to Corey, uh, can I get out an impractical car? Override some memories, some bad memories. Uh, but the one I would get was born in 1995. It doesn't come with airbags.

Speaker 2 1:18:36

It's a, it's a Gen Z.

Speaker 1 1:18:38

It's actually a gen one.<laugh>.

Speaker 3 1:18:40

<laugh>.

Speaker 1 1:18:43

Ah. So anyways, that's it. And the process gonna buy. Do we all

Speaker 2 1:18:46

Have to support Heather on this? Because my family's,

Speaker 1 1:18:47

My family's not, I'm not getting really those, she's not getting supportive vibes. The

Speaker 2 1:18:52

Reaction

Speaker 1 1:18:52

I want you like, oh that's really cool. It seems impractical, but it's good for you. Mm-hmm. And I'm proud of you. Mm-hmm.<affirmative>. Mm-hmm<affirmative> instead. I'm getting a lot of uh, eyebrow wrinkles.<laugh>. Yeah. How are you gonna really, what's the,

Speaker 2 1:19:01

But Heather does not daily drive. You have to remember that. It's not a daily driver.

Speaker 1 1:19:04

No, it would be my only car cause I'm a minimalist and I don't need two vehicles. But Corey,

Speaker 3 1:19:08

It's always a phone call away.<laugh>. Hey Larry. What little blue Larry don't want more. Great. It, it really does.

Speaker 1 1:19:18

So I thought that would be a fun midway crisis, um, in the process. And then I will be sweating in it at 11 miles per gallon. So that'll be Wow. But I don't drive a lot.

Speaker 2 1:19:29

Wow. Yeah. So when will this deal be finalized where we can announce if this worked out or did not work

Speaker 1 1:19:35

Out? Well at this point, if it doesn't work out, I'm already out 1500 in tires. Yeah. Uh, but ideally it would be next week. But then I'd get it shipped down here. So next probably two weeks.

Speaker 2 1:19:45

What day?

Speaker 1 1:19:46

He doesn't know yet

Speaker 2 1:19:47

What we Oh.

Speaker 1 1:19:48

Oh, what day would I buy it from this kid I'll never meet. This is how these old cars work. You end up not buy, you not not meet the person. It's a very Don't screw me over. Okay.<laugh>, you don't screw me over too. Okay.<laugh> uh, he said his, he will have it listed on maybe Wednesday. He thinks the tires are being installed today.

Speaker 2 1:20:05

So we will not have closure. Next podcast. You're saying

Speaker 1 1:20:08

We may not have the car but I may be out. The money<laugh>. We may be sweating.

Speaker 2 1:20:13

We may be

Speaker 1 1:20:14

Sweating. But I think it would be a fun Keep it for two years. Let it go. It's fully depreciated.

Speaker 2 1:20:17

Great<laugh>.

Speaker 1 1:20:19

So all I have to do is not run into something

Speaker 2 1:20:21

<laugh>. It'll be fine. Oh.

Speaker 1 1:20:23

But cause the car has so few. One I wanna say I was watching a documentary on it. Again, I have experience with the brand, but it's Do Chrysler at the time was so out of money that they didn't, they couldn't afford producing any parts for the car. Okay. So they told the design team Go rummage in the parts bin in Detroit when I where Don used to be located. Yeah. And just use other parts from other cars. So the engine from the, from a Ram pickup truck, the taillights and headlights are from Jeeps and Dodge Caravans. And the internals are mostly from a Dodge Caravan. It's

Speaker 2 1:20:53

Got a Van's headlight. Uhhuh

Speaker 1 1:20:56

<affirmative>. Yeah. Yeah. It's all just, it's just a Franken car.

Speaker 2 1:21:00

Yeah. Is this all, just this year, 95.

Speaker 1 1:21:03

They ended up getting a little better at the generations after the Gen five, the newest one. They, they just stopped Production in 2017 is mostly an Italian car. Like it's, it's absolutely stunning. But to get it off the ground, they did have this whole, they say they call it the car that saved Chrysler. Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 1:21:19

Cuz it and Chrysler gone. Is is still around. No

Speaker 1 1:21:22

<laugh>. They don't make'em anymore.<laugh>. But I think that'd be a, a weird experience again,

Speaker 2 1:21:28

Just to watch you go through life.

Speaker 1 1:21:31

Sometimes things be the sideline

Speaker 2 1:21:32

Of your life.

Speaker 1 1:21:34

You have sent, sent a passenger seat and shout out me a

Speaker 2 1:21:38

Fence. I buckled up and said, hold

Speaker 1 1:21:40

On. I never got you in the back of the motorcycle. I don't think I could have turned<laugh> you die.

Speaker 2 1:21:44

I don't think I would've been all there either. But I watched you, sent you off, drove in front

Speaker 1 1:21:48

Of you. Well stinking like you don't have kids, not dating anybody. This would be a perfect time. Got you. Don't pick me up on the side of the

Speaker 2 1:21:54

Road. Don't dating anybody by ya. You'll, you love to you you'll love

Speaker 1 1:21:58

To change. Seem to be too. Let's mess this. Okay. I think we've taken up a lot on our time. Did we cover everything we needed to

Speaker 2 1:22:04

Cover? Did not go to the mail bag. So yes.

Speaker 1 1:22:09

<laugh>, can you go to the mail bag? The company debit card? Cuz they wouldn't give us a credit. It's expiring and I'll need to update some

Speaker 2 1:22:15

Recurring billing. Is it there now?

Speaker 1 1:22:17

Probably it expires in 55 days.

Speaker 2 1:22:19

Oh. I don't know.

Speaker 1 1:22:20

Said Zoom. Thanks. Zoom. That's nice.

Speaker 2 1:22:22

<laugh> be rid of.

Speaker 1 1:22:23

Why are you paying for you?

Speaker 2 1:22:24

All right guys. You're good enough. Heather's car will be good enough.

Speaker 1 1:22:30

Good enough. And you know what? Your orange face is good enough. Carpet cleaner. Get enough<laugh>

Speaker 2 1:22:35

Dog. Good enough.

Speaker 1 1:22:39

Good enough.